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Preparing for the final assult...
« on: January 23, 2008, 06:12:32 PM »
I'm planning on submitting some of my designs, but I was wondering. Are their any designs of mine that look Joat worthy, or that you want to see in JoaT's hallowed halls? :)
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2008, 07:49:45 PM »
Hmmm...some of yours might be, with a write-up. I don't really know, I'm not a mod and don't really know the rules. Maybe you could put up a review of your most complete ones? Give an idea of what's on the table?

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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2008, 10:23:36 AM »
Try to put in as much detal as possible, it shows you put more effort in it. If neccesary, make the images up to ten times as large and even full in the hull plating, put a human in for size reference, and write-ups. Specs and history can give you a greater chance to get in as well. 
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 07:01:30 PM »
Yes, I know this. Are there any designs i have now that look close to ready?
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2008, 05:35:41 PM »
So would it be relatively safe to say that, with a write up, the Copenhagen and Tacoma would have a better than 50% chance of entry?
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 06:52:29 PM »
They are the most detailed, so it would be less work to get them in.

On the other hand I'd like to see a few more alien designs on JoAT.
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2008, 07:19:35 PM »
I would LOVE to submit the Birok, but it seems pretty pointless, as no one really likes the design.
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2008, 08:18:25 PM »
Well Bernd and I each posted a link to other Klingon ships you would post.  Personally I'd really like to se the Vulcan ship get in since there aren't that many Vulcan designs around.  However that would require some work (IIRC JoAT requires a few different views).

The Vaqcharghwi-Class looks like it wouldn't require that much work to make it.  Just a write up and maybe a front view.
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2008, 08:22:33 PM »
OK, so I guess you should expect

Copanhagen Class
Marconi Class
Tacoma Class

Within a week or so

And I'll begin R+D on a redraw of the Kir'Kin'Tha
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2008, 02:26:26 PM »
While I think the pictures are a bit standard, I would give you the green light. Free 3D programs are around enough nowadays so I would advice you download some of them and experiment with them. I think the 'blandness' of the designs disappears when you make 3D models out of them :)
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2008, 05:32:10 PM »
I downloaded google sketchup, but it confuses the heck out of me. My goal is to be comparable in quality to guido, as I understand he uses paint.
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008, 02:33:55 PM »
He uses paint, but the parts he uses are probably very small, with a saucer probably consistin out of multiple components, and being compressed in size. Also, he knows how to bend and bow the proportions of these parts very well. Also, adopt his colour palette, and try to deduce the parts from what you saw. Try to make a kit of your own of neccesary to familiarize yourelves with kitbashing while mastering it as well.

As  for sketchup, it is quite good, and RICK King AIFD, Borgman and some others probably use it too. Try to render the models in kerkythea, an advice that will be confirmed by Borgman.
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2008, 02:32:11 AM »
Indeed ;) If you start using SketchUp, give me a ring Horton, I'll see what I can do for you to giude you through it :)
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2008, 03:37:22 AM »
I third Sketchup.   Once you sit down and start playing with it you'll catch on.   Also look around in the repositories online and download some existing Sketchup models to take apart and study. 
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Re: Preparing for the final assult...
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2008, 02:31:38 PM »
I use Sketchup almost exclusively now. I have not yet downloaded kerkythea, as my current system does have the RAM and processor speeds and capacity to use Kerky effectively - Kerky uses a LOT of RAM.

However, whenever we begin to see the insurance companies settlements from the car accident, A newer system will be at the top of the list.

Now, I still use Version 5 of Sketchup as I found Version 6 to be quite buggy when I first tried it out, I have not tried it since, so they may have fixed a good many of the bugs. Sketchup is very easy to use, especilly if you take adavantage of the built in tutorials and video tutorials.

I still use paint and the shipkits a little bit, mostly just to concrete an idea and try out combinations here and there till a get a idea fleshed out, then I go to Sketchup from there.
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