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Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« on: April 17, 2008, 10:25:24 AM »
On another board we have a thread about this,so i thought if it was not made here before the last season exposes the last one,who do you think would be the worst choice for the last cylon?
Starbuck
Baltar
Adama
Boxey(the kid)

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2008, 10:35:53 AM »
I'd much rather have a new character be the Final One, I would like him/her to be the actual Cylon God. Any of the established characters as the final Cylon would be a cop-out for me.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2008, 11:25:11 AM »
I'm almost certain the final Cylon will either be Baltar or Kendra Shaw.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2008, 11:23:55 PM »
Unless there's another resurrection ship serving a different faction of Cylons out there (a possibility) with unlimited resurrection range (highly unlikely), I think the fact that the other Cylons know nothing about who the Final Five are safely rules out any dead people like Kendra Shaw or Ellen Tigh. If she had resurrected on their ship they would know who she was and that she was one of the Five.

Tom Zarek is in my top three for being the final Cylon (along with Laura Roslin and Lee Adama), and has a lot in his favor as being the final Cylon (most significantly his not being in the 'Last Supper' pic - Moore said the final Cylon was not in the pic but could have been lying to maintain the surprise), but at the same time I would kind of be disappointed because his reveal would carry no emotional impact or shock. He's already a jerk and a constant thorn in the proverbial Colonial backside, so that would just seem anticlimactic. Unless of course they could work it into a good storyline, which is possible with him coming back later this season and with the Quorum seat he gave up to Lee.

I think making Baltar the final Cylon, despite the evidence in its favor, totally devalues his temptation, downfall, occasional redemption, and his messiah-complex. In his own extremely flawed way, he's one of the most human characters on the show.

But the worst possible final Cylon would of course be someone completely inconsequential, like Dee, Gaeta, Seelix, Kendra Shaw, Doc Cottle, etc. However, Boxey as the final Cylon would be made of win.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2008, 11:38:38 PM »
As some suggest online the final 5 may be special cause there is only one of each of them,probably copies of colonists that were kidnapped and replaced,and since they are that having multiple copies would have not been good for when they planned to activate the sleeper command.

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2008, 12:29:27 AM »
On another board we have a thread about this,so i thought if it was not made here before the last season exposes the last one,who do you think would be the worst choice for the last cylon?
Starbuck
Baltar
Adama
Boxey(the kid)

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2008, 12:36:31 AM »
I've already figured out who the last Cylon is and how the show will end.

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2008, 12:44:20 AM »
Well, Kira is going to be on the show...

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2008, 12:54:46 AM »
It's all coming together now.  You all just wait and see.  Moore willl totally do it to, just to frak with people.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2008, 01:36:02 AM »
As some suggest online the final 5 may be special cause there is only one of each of them,probably copies of colonists that were kidnapped and replaced,and since they are that having multiple copies would have not been good for when they planned to activate the sleeper command.

Yeah...I don't think the final five can resurrect like the others.  Moore has said again and again that they're different in some way.  So if there is one big thing that sets them apart from the other seven, the that I think above all else, the inability to resurrect would be it. 

I think it's totally believable that resurrection is something that the other seven developed after whatever split occurred between the 12 and would also explain somewhat how the final five were able to integrate in Colonial society so well.  If there's only the single copy of each one, then there's no chance of duplicates being noticed like with Six, where there were several version of her throughout the colonies right up to the attack.

On another note, Apollo along with Roslin are also in my list of possibilities for the last Cylon.  Roslin, because there is something going on with her as we saw in the last episode of season three when was having a shared vision with Athena and Caprica Six, and probably Hera as well.

Apollo, as I think he represents a major part of humanity that hasn't really been displayed among the Cylons yet.  Also, it would totally screw with Adma and Starbuck if he turned out to be one.  Though as Apollo is the only one that believes Starbuck actually went to Earth, and if/when she gets back from her little trip he continues to be her only supporter, it just makes his possible turn as a Cylon all that more unbelievable and obvious, in that it whole, enemy right under your nose sort of way.

Then again, they could decide to make Lee a cylon just to screw with Kara even more.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2008, 01:45:07 AM »
I have a feeling that it's Roslin.  her visions and her connection to the other cylons would fit well into it.  Plus it'd be pretty ironic since she's basically spaced every cylon she's ever met.  The fact she managed to miss Kara when she was standing right in front of her might be significant that way too.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2008, 01:55:59 AM »
Roslin also inexplicably got queasy and nearly slumped over the DRADUS plotting table immediately when the Cylons did the EMP. That was a "woah" moment for me. She was in the CIC so she couldn't just up and leave if she started hearing music, if in fact the last of the Five heard the music at all. He or she could have a different trigger entirely.

Lee fulfills the whole "Adama is a Cylon" comment by Leoben plus fits with the foreshadowing conversation between Zeus and Apollo where he asked Bill if it would matter if Zak was a Cylon, because he'd still be Zak.

Then we have to consider that one of the Final Five (though we don't know which) shocked the hell out of D'Anna and made her completely apologetic. Though she really should be apologetic to any human after what the Cylons did, it implied a personal connection between the two as if she had hurt them more directly. It could be the last Cylon or not.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2008, 01:59:58 AM »
Roslin also inexplicably got queasy and nearly slumped over the DRADUS plotting table immediately when the Cylons did the EMP. That was a "woah" moment for me.
I forgot about that, but yeah, that it pretty strange.  I wonder why she would've have heard the music though.  That'd be the same question with Lee.  Zarek could actually look good for it for that reason (sicne he wasn't on the ship to hear it), but that'd be the only thing I can think of off hand.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2008, 02:26:46 AM »
Well getting back to the original question of the worst possible choice...hands down; Dirk Benedict is the worst choice for the last Cylon.

Moore had planned on making him God at the end of season two, but couldn't work out the story.  So now that they need to wrap it all up and are looking for someone to be God, it's not out of the realm of possibility.

I hate that idea though...if for no other reason...ok it's the only reason, his comments regarding Katee Sackhoff.  My totally unhealthy obsession with Starbuck aside, he was being a sexist dick, made even more dickish by the whole buddy-buddy angle they played up before the mini-series and then going back on that to rant about a woman playing a role he had previously occupied.  He just comes off as being a sore loser and bitchy because old Apollo was brought on the show and that Katee can not only act circles around him, but even by the time he made those comments, she had been playing Starbuck longer then he ever had.

So if Moore tries to pull that again and Dirk shows up as the final Cylon, or the Cylon God or however it's going to work...I'm going to be pissed off.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2008, 03:12:50 AM »
Indeed. That cockbag shouldn't be allowed to work on anything except second-rate gay furry porn. Because first-rate gay furry porn is too good for him. I mean, I'm talking about banging dudes dressed up as platypi and sloths instead of mainstream sex animals like lions and bears and shit.

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2008, 03:25:32 AM »
I'd be much more open to the idea that Roslin was the final Cylon, because if it was Lee it wouldn't make any sense.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2008, 03:26:42 AM »
I would write up Roslin's dizzy spell as being caused by whatever dropped Starbuck off in the nebula, not so much being due to the EMP.

Worst final cylon would be Helo cause then the whole thing about human and cylon interbreeding would have been reduced in significance, although it would mean that the models could breed among themselves.

My most serious speculation at this point is to suspect a character that was a part of the resistance on New Caprica, like Tyrol and Tigh were. I point the finger at Jake the dog, one model being in the resistance and the other model being a former pet of Billy (who probably would have been a cylon himself instead of Tori if he hasn't left the series).
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2008, 03:37:02 AM »
^^^ Yeah, the Resistance angle is an important one, as is the post-NewCap collaborator execution squad. Anders, Tigh, and Tyrol were directly involved in both, and IIRC a deleted scene with Tori revealed that she was providing them information on collaborators.

That would lean more in favor of Zarek again, since he was the one who authorized the executions and at the end played some small part in the resistance. It would also support Gaeta, as far as he assisted the resistance.

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2008, 04:37:12 PM »
I really cant think of anyone being revealed as the final cylon where I wouldnt sigh and wail...

The writers could be painting themselves into a corner if they are not careful. I guess people will complain whoever it is (assuming it one of the established cast). But I hope its not any of the principle cast- especially Starbuck, the Adamas' or Baltar.

I say get back Michelle Forbes and make her 'model' the final cylon.

Or it should be something badass that we havent seen before perhaps some some sort of super-toaster  ;D . Its a shame John Colicos has passed away- it would have great to get him back.


Going OT slightly, did anyone notice in the recent  season 4 ep that one of the crazy pool cylons that control the base-stars said 'end of line' at the end of her ranting? A nod to 'Tron'?

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2008, 05:23:35 PM »
The same Hybrid (or maybe it was a different one) said "End of Line" back in season 3 when they first showed her.  I don't know if it could be a reference to Tron or not because I've never watched it, but it does sound like some sort of computer term.  (i.e. the end of a line of code being signaled by the phrase "end of line" or something like that)
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2008, 05:42:00 PM »
I say get back Michelle Forbes and make her 'model' the final cylon.

I'd completely forgotten about Pegasus suspects, like Cain's two XOs or the civilian tech guy.
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2008, 08:16:37 PM »
I think i know who's the last one
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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2008, 09:01:22 PM »
I think it's Apollo

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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2008, 08:13:42 PM »
How would it be Apollo thou? I think Capt. Adama would remember his wife not giving birth but suddenly having another son...
Of course, he we would be the worst choice to be a Cylon.
I can't help but wonder if it might be Dualla due to her name, but Starbuck is an obvious choice. I never thought of President Roslin thou...

I also wonder if at least Tigh was "replaced" by a Cylon clone on New Caprica. I mean, how did the Cylons have such advanced models even before or during the war? I also wonder if the Cylon "higher ups" are humans from earth, since I haven't seen the big-brained type Cylons from TOS, and it doesn't seem like the skin job's have the highest authority.

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Re: Who Would Be The Worst Choice For The Last Cylon?
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2008, 08:25:55 PM »
Apparently, the final Cylon was not present in the "Last Supper" photo. That rules out Apollo, Adama, and Roslin.
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