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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2010, 02:51:45 PM »
I like the NX for what it is.
Indeed it does look too advanced, but we're stuck with it as canon, so honestly I don't find the addition of an engineering hull too bothering. The main damage was already done when its design was adopted for the show.

A more interesting path would have been the other way round, starting out with the cilindrical engineering hull as the main hull of the ship  instead of the saucer.
I think in that way it would have been much easier to swallow, it would have had a passing resemblence to the starfleet museum ships which many people loved and considered "canon", it would have looked different enough from TOS and TMP ships, plus the adition of a saucer section later on would have been easier to accept.

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2010, 12:35:24 PM »
Ooh, I like that idea!

No saucer, just a spartan engineering hull with nacelles.  Trek combat has always been very naval/submarine, play that up a bit more in the original ship designs as a bit of a "well, we learned how to do this in a glorified flying submarine, and that sort of stuck with us".

And seeing as how the original Enterprise was supposed to be able to break the saucer off as a lifeboat (was that TOS, or was it an unused ability from TMP?), it would make sense.  The first real starship started as a hull, then later they bolted a saucer onto it in such a way that they could blow the couplings and leave it behind.  That design feature carried through until TNG when they made it a reusable ability.

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2010, 03:40:51 PM »
The most interesting NX redesign I've seen was a mash up of the Intrepid and the NX, so it was the NX saucer, no Catamarans, and the "engineering hull", i.e. the back bit, of the Intrepid with NX nacelles. I could never find it again, but it always stuck with me as a cool design.

This one by Niklas (whoever that is) featured on EAS isn't bad, but I would (again) completely remove the catamaran/twin hull, and extend the engineering hull backwards. If I have time, or access to photoshop/anykind of drawing program, I'll whip up an example.

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2010, 04:23:50 PM »
What about instead of bolting the engineering hull onto the bottom of the saucer, we expand the catamaran pod out into a full secondary hull and give it a 3 part design held together in the back by the pylons?

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2010, 05:06:39 PM »
Like this?



*EDIT* Hot linked from EAS, which resulted in fail. Re-uploaded to image-shack. Everyone cool?

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Here's a 'bash (if you can call it that) that Guido did for me, it's a rough idea of how I'd imagine the "Missing Link Class", the one that falls between the NX and the Constitution.




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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2010, 07:53:20 AM »
that image is pretty cool.  Agreed on Daedalu as being ugly, it does look like a first attempt at a ship.

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2010, 08:46:01 AM »
that image is pretty cool.  Agreed on Daedalu as being ugly, it does look like a first attempt at a ship.

That is because the Daedalus *was* a first attempt at a ship.

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2010, 11:51:46 AM »
that image is pretty cool.  Agreed on Daedalu as being ugly, it does look like a first attempt at a ship.

That is because the Daedalus *was* a first attempt at a ship.


Where is that written in canon? When did anyone ever turn to the camera and say "By the way, here is the Daedalus class, and it was the first ship in Starfleet"

Secondly, just because it's the first ship (which it's not, but let's play make-believe) doesn't mean it has to look like shit. The Daedalus class looks stupid, ungainly, and poorly designed. The best fan-theory I've heard on why it looks so crappy compared to the NX was that they were mass-produced during the Romulan war as frigates or something, pretty much just slapped together and thrown at the enemy.
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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2010, 12:34:50 PM »
I think Bernd meant that the Daedulus was the first attempt at a ship, what with it being an early concept for the TOS Connie. Not that it was the first Starfleet ship.

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2010, 01:12:35 AM »
I think Bernd meant that the Daedulus was the first attempt at a ship, what with it being an early concept for the TOS Connie. Not that it was the first Starfleet ship.

Yes, that's what I meant. :)

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2010, 07:51:37 AM »
Sorry, but my hatred for the Daedalus is so thick and rich you could drizzle it on pancakes.
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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2010, 08:42:52 AM »
... yum?
Steady on.

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2010, 04:09:16 PM »
YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT YUM.
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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2010, 05:49:10 PM »
Daft, why haven't you turned that into a product? Rage syrup, distilled with ragey goodness.
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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2010, 11:44:48 AM »
Mmmm... sweet sweet rageahol.

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Re: Now *THAT* is an NX-01!
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2017, 04:04:46 AM »
Once, long a go, I designed an NX/Connie in-between for CX's (in hindsight, crappy and poorly run) Star Trek: Foundations
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