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$$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« on: April 04, 2011, 09:10:10 PM »
It seems Telford still wants to command the Destiny mission.  Would have been nice to see Jonas Quinn around at some point in this episode.  Hopefully the tour those two Langarans will inspire them to allow Earth to dial Destiny at some point before the series ends (or maybe for a movie or something).

On another note, I think I have an idea about why Duplicate Rush went to the chair room in "Twin Destinies".  I figure he wanted to be one with the ship before the end.
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 11:53:44 PM »
The stuff with Rush was nice but I felt that the crossover element was a bit of a letdown.
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2011, 07:00:45 AM »
So Eli and Rush have lost Ginn & Amanda Perry, again.  It would have been nice to have them around for a bit longer, interacting with the crew before they were isolated in quarantine. 

As far as the corssover, I get what they were trying to do and their plan was fairly clever I thought, but I don't know if we needed an entire episode devoted to it.  In a perfect world, this would have been the perfect point to do a true Atlantis and Universe crossover, like they did with SG-1 and Atlantis when they were trying to dial the Ori supper gate.  And like you said TNC, it would have been cool to see Jonas as well.

And again, we see Telford reverting back to his old jerkish season one personality, as well as acting like the guy who is calling all the shots for the entire Stargate Program.  Even if it's a new character we've never seen because they can't get RDA to come back for whatever reason, they need to bring in someone above Telford, at least to give the appearance that someone with a rank above Colonel is calling the shots.  At most Telford might be in command of Earth Operations relating to Destiny, but given the seriousness of the situational, I'd want more then just Woolsey and Telford sitting in on that meeting with the Lagarians, especially seeing as how it might effect relations between two worlds. 

I would hate to think that they're writing this as though meeting with representatives from another world, is as common place as having lunch with a Senator, or state governor.
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 12:20:38 AM »
Yeah, they needed to bring in a few more people from the other shows. Woolsey and McKay were fine in terms of getting the plan off the ground, but they should have had, as a minimum, O'Neill to sign off on things from our end. Ideally, though, somebody from the SGC in the initial briefing for escort purposes for the Ambassador and his staff at the very least, and to say that the SGC is still important in the grand scheme of things*, and Jonas to have a sympathetic, to our needs, person to defuse things on their side.

Rush's story, not surprised Perry tried something like that, but it was interesting enough. It's too bad that Eli had to do what he did, though.

*Something that's been bugging me since the first episode of this show.
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 04:24:04 AM »
As I mentioned in a previous episode discussion Alliances, in many instances they don't even have to actually show some of those details, such as O'Neill or the SGC.  They can simply bring it up in conversation, which they were quick to do with Young's line to Rodney, when he said 'Sheppard was right about you."  It serves the exact same purpose, of letting us know that these characters are indeed part of the larger Stargate universe...no pun intended.
In this case though, a quick line from someone, "O'Neill has signed off on this?" would have helped quite a bit, and you get around the problem of actually having to show RDA.
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 01:34:36 PM »
"In this case though, a quick line from someone, "O'Neill has signed off on this?" would have helped quite a bit, and you get around the problem of actually having to show RDA."

Hey Jimi,

General O'Neill was referenced when Woolsey asked Telford if the IOA knew about the spy-sat intel. Telford also said that he authorized the mission to Langara.

My question is: Why don't they just Langaraform a naquida rich planet by setting off a Mark IX gatebuster on said planet? This would enrich, or transmute the naquida into naquadria.

This was an excellent episode, and it is really starting to get me down that the show is coming to an end.
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 05:03:41 PM »
It was great to see McKay, but he wasn't the highlight for me.  The gate travel to a planet from the SG canon, it was like the good ol' days of SG-1.  Such good times...  I didn't really care for the overall plan and it was a little too predictable that it wouldn't work out, so McKay's involvement ultimately seemed something of a waste.  I was surprised that they didn't have him seem more excited to be on Destiny, but I guess it makes sense for the character considering he probably prefers the cooler tech of Atlantis rather than the antiquated stuff on Destiny.

Didn't care much for the issues with Dr. Weller, either.  Although they gave her some sympathetic and somewhat justified reasoning, she still came off a bit too cliched, especially with the cheesy "love" requirement.  I wouldn't be surprised if Rush obsesses about it and eventually comes to the realization that issues with his wife has left some conflict with his emotions and Destiny couldn't read them right, or something along those lines.

Oddly I still enjoyed the episode despite not liking either plot all that much, weird.  Although Eli certainly was a highpoint, especially the way he talked to Rush at the end.  The more and more they've been having him stand up for himself has been pretty damn good.
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 07:27:25 PM »
I think someone mentioned this in another thread, but...this is a few weeks in a row where I've lol'd at the opening credits.

"I killed Riley with my bare hands." 
"You're a GOOD commander."  Say wha?

Anyway, pretty good ep, but not mindblowing.  I liked how McKay was written - mellower, less manic - but the ep would have benefited from a bit more of his presence.  The Eli-McKay scene seemed like a drab bit of fan service/'passing the torch'.  I could have stood for way more Victor Garber, as he is awesomepants.

Does the fact that many of us were most intrigued by the visiting of an SG-1 planet, SGA tie-in, etc. show what's fundamentally wrong with SGU?  It can be tremendously entertaining and it's usually good, but it's not really as fun

Oddly I still enjoyed the episode despite not liking either plot all that much, weird.  Although Eli certainly was a highpoint, especially the way he talked to Rush at the end.  The more and more they've been having him stand up for himself has been pretty damn good.

I didn't quite read it that way.  While his anger was justified, I thought Eli came off as almost petulant, as in "you ruined it for everyone".

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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 09:06:44 PM »
My question is: Why don't they just Langaraform a naquida rich planet by setting off a Mark IX gatebuster on said planet? This would enrich, or transmute the naquida into naquadria.

It's probably a matter of convenience.  Langara already has a naquadria rich crust, a facility hooked in to all that naquadria, and a gate powered by said facility.  Okay, the last part isn't true anymore since they moved it.

In order to "Langaraform" a planet they'd have to:
1. Detonate a Mk IX (easy part).
2. Stop the naquida to naquadira conversion before the planet explodes (as Langara almost did). (They'd either need to build one of those drilling machines or borrow and repair the Langaran one)

Then they'd have to build a base (which would probably take a few months, unless they get some tunnel crystals from the Tok'ra), then hook the base into the naquadria, and then put a stargate in the base (assuming they didn't build the base around a stargate).

Another concern is that I'd imagine that a gatebuster releases insane amounts of radiation that might take some time to be dispersed before they can set up a base on the planet.  And a naquida rich planet probably already has a population on it (former Goa'uld slaves) that would have to be moved before they can do all that.  Although there could be naquida rich planets out there that are uninhabited and aren't part of Lucian Alliance territory.  All that said, I'd imagine that would be the SGC's next move, but I doubt it will happen in the short timeframe the show has left.
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2011, 03:07:24 AM »
I didn't quite read it that way.  While his anger was justified, I thought Eli came off as almost petulant, as in "you ruined it for everyone".

Really?  I could see that had Rush's tone implied mere confusion in how Eli solved things, or something along those lines, but I thought Eli responded appropriately.  Rush's asking "what did you do?!" in such a condescending tone, to me, seemed like it made Eli react as though he had been reverted back to being simply "Math Boy" despite Rush being the one that's been encouraging him this whole time.  I mean, how would you respond if your mentor had just reacted to your actions as though you were nothing more than a little kid pushing random buttons?
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Re: $$$SGU "Seizure" Review and Discussion Thread (spoilers)$$$
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2011, 08:24:09 AM »
I thought you meant at the very end.

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2011, 02:14:52 PM »
It was at the end, when Rush came out of his coma.
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