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Klingon Bird of Prey Photon tube
« on: March 26, 2012, 06:52:03 AM »
I'm suddenly fascinated by the Klingon Bird of Prey's photon launcher. The details on the studio model don't match up very well to the AMT kit, which has recently be re-released. On the model the piece is a clear part, cut to follow the lines of the front of the "head". I always assumed it was pretty much accurate but it seems it isn't.
On some shots of the studio model the front of the tube has an and-cap, a green detail that blocks the muzzle. There doesn't seem to be anywhere for it to go if it were capable of opening and I have spoken to someone who swears he saw the cap in place during one of the movies.
The tube itself appears to actually face downwards instead of forwards meaning the tube shoots torpedoes off to around 15 degrees. Odd... even more odd is that the entire structure around the muzzle appears to be a separate part. it's connected to the function of the torp launcher as it has glowing red lights in it, matching the launcher and it appears raised from the rest of the head detail. Strangely enough, on some shots of the model, this detail is pointing in different directions meaning one of two things.
1) The detail is removable to service the lights inside and was put back on incorrectly or broken.
2) The front torp tube is directionable for finer targetting and the model is built to include this although it was never used on-screen (or was it? I remember a very dodgy effect of the side guns moving for finer targetting in the Final Frontier but never the front tube).
I wonder is anyone can shed any light on this. Even better, can anyone show me a really good shot of the inside detail of the torp tube?


image showing cap from the side. Clearly the entire tube assembly is a separate part

http://www.modelermagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/kg_kling_bop_studio_model-025.jpg

Closer showing cap in more detail. Could the cap always be there, it just looks different lit up?

http://www.modelermagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/kg_kling_bop_studio_model-042.jpg

Hi-def screen grab - no doubt of an end cap here...

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tffhd/ch5/tffhd0618.jpg

Another grab later on, cap is missing now and tube is lit

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tffhd/ch8/tffhd1028.jpg

Here a more recent shot of the model, the nose looks bent. Is the detail part broken off or moved?

http://www.thereplicapropforum.com/attachments/f10/klingon-bird-prey-photon-cannon-kbop-nose4.jpg-67088d1315522410

So I don't know... My guess is the pic showing the extreme tilt is damage to the model. I'm still interested in the cap and I would really love to see a detailed image of what's inside that tube.

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Re: Klingon Bird of Prey Photon tube
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 06:42:10 PM »
at first i was thinking the cap was a light for effects shot purposes but that last pic says no  my other thought is it has something to do with  the torps originally supposed to be plasma rather than projectile wich in ST III they do look like Plasma rather than Photon
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Re: Klingon Bird of Prey Photon tube
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 08:52:51 PM »
I think I have a partial explanation for the cap. It first appears in the Voyage Home and is clearly there in the whaling boat scene. There is a video on Youtube that's clear enough to see it. It does come and go throughout the movie but I think the intention was that the weapons were closed off for that film and when the cap vanishes it's through use of stock footage, used or unused.
What's interesting about the cap is it gives a clear indication of the angle of the tube. It doesn't shoot weapons straight forward which is a very awkward design.

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Re: Klingon Bird of Prey Photon tube
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2014, 02:13:41 AM »
From my understanding, this is because that detail isn't actually meant to be a torpedo tube, but a deflector dish.  This was also the case on the battlecruiser, and on the Romulan warbird.
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