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A War Between Two Galaxies
« on: November 30, 2016, 03:13:18 PM »
 Waking up this sleepy dump with a my first fan fiction.

 A Star Wars/Star Trek fan fiction WIP. Expect a lot of changes to be made, as I seek out and receive advice from others to improve this, and as I come up with better ideas over time.

 If you don't like spoilers, and see something great in this, then I encourage you to wait until I say I'm finished with this (assuming that ever even happens).

 Certain events and ships from other fan fictions and fan videos will be referenced.

 Star Wars and Star Trek are owned by their respective copyright holders and no copyright infringement is intended whatsoever. Any characters and starship classes inevitably used are held by some fair use/copyright clause that I'm sure exists, and pretty much belongs to them. Same goes for any soundtracks linked to give mood to this story.


 This is my first fan fiction, and heavily under progress. No mature content. Yet. If you have any ideas for my Star Wars vs. Star Trek story, feel free to share!

 In this story, expect to see (or read of) epic battles, good vs. evil, and even some politics. Also expect to see many original and fanon designs, including some I haven't given form or posted yet in my gallery!

 I'll be coming back and editing this on a very regular basis, because I've only just gotten started!

 I'd like to thank Sean Tourangeau, Gustavo Callisto, Bernd Schneider, Dave Metlesits for giving me their blessing to use their starship designs throughout this fan fiction. If you don't see them yet, rest assured I will mention them during at least one of the battles.

 I'd also like to think Dave for allowing me to use one of his original characters.

 Finally, if you want to see what to see more of what the Avenger-class Escort Cruiser looks like, I suggest you go here: web.archive.org/web/2008031419…. I will likely be using this advanced supplement to the Defiant class throughout my story

 Sadly, Sci-fi Art is no longer actively up and running, but was one of the pioneers of 3D Star Trek and other sci-fi art, and perhaps even a forerunner of sites like DeviantArt and the fantastic artwork we see here, and it is fortunate that it has been preserved on the Wayback Machine. I am blown away every time that I look at the fantastic artwork I see here, and that much of it is over a decade old. I'd totally recommend a visit if you love science fiction 3D artwork.



 Chapter One: A New Threat?

 Background Soundtrack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr_TkRRwlGw The idea of listing background music comes from a Star Wars Yuuzhan Vong era and Star Trek crossover (which I think is still on here, in it's incomplete state), an idea that I very much liked, because in my head, this is sort of an unrefined script for a fan series like The Hidden Frontier anyways. One which I just don't have the resources or knowledge to carry out.One of my favorite parts about a movie or TV series is a good soundtrack.

 Prologue

 There are certain areas of space where the boundaries between different areas between time, space, and dimensions are far thinner than normal. There are many areas like this in every Galaxy. Ascended races such as the Q knew about these rifts for at least tens of thousands of years, and some of them have even used them to travel between different times and places. The current younger races however have only now began learning about them, and what they can do. Safely traveling between them is another story.

 During cases where unscented races find and use these rifts, it sometimes results in friendship and mutual benefits for different parties. In other cases, it leads two races with two different ideologies into conflict. In this case, it was the later.

 One was a democratic faction that had just come out of one devastating war after another, and was now dealing with the aftermath of a devastating interstellar event. As a faction known for keeping the peace, they have been expending time and resources to keep their part of the galaxy from turning into turmoil. But they have also begun rebuilding their fleet with the technologies brought back from the Delta Quadrant, which was devastated during the final invasion attempt from the cybernetic plague known to the galaxy as the Borg, as well as the Dominion Wars from over a decade ago.

 Another was a former democratic interstellar state, now turned a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by an iron fist, and at war with those who refused to accept the death of liberty. Things have also gotten worse in their galaxy as the ruthless Empire has stepped up their campaign to rid the Galaxy of any of this stupid, inconvenient notion of "democracy" or "governmental accountability". These two power's ideologies couldn't be any more different, and the first of events is about to be put in motion.

<For appropriate background music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL2N4Bfl4Ec&list=PLeigbpMXUkYmrSGaLGRnw1vtUwqIzKyJO, but stop at 5:16>


 A long time ago, in a Galaxy Far, Far Away

  It has been several months since the devastating Battle of Hoth, and the Rebellion has split up and gone into hiding, but has continued their almost trademark at-this-point hit and run attacks. While searching for a missing Star Destroyer, Imperial scouts happened upon a spacial anomaly, research into which suggested, that under the right circumstances, could be safely used to cross into another area of space.

 It is a time of great upheaval as the evil Empire's quest to crush the rebellion turns into a full blown Galactic Civil War, and the Empire uses an ever increasing amount of resources. Hungry for more resources to use against the Rebellion, the Empire has built a station specifically designed by Imperial science to cross this special area of space into another, what and where of which is unknown. Due to not knowing where it will lead, and what or who is on the other side, this station has been built with the purpose of fending off any hostile factions they might encounter, as well as in case the Rebellion learns of the existence of this top secret space station, and some of the best capitol ships have been called to form an initial scouting party, with more ships on alert if needed.

 In a rare public appearance, the Emperor is on route to give a grand send off of his ships to conquer new territory. The schedule for the first launch has been sped up, due to the significant amount of resources that have been expended, including on stations such as Gateway. For those in the know, there is a significant amount of anticipation.


 Nearby a nebula floated a gigantic structure, surrounded by gathered vessels and under-construction Golan defense platforms. But what really caught one's eye was the dark grey long dagger-shaped triangular vessel near the newly completed space station: a Executor-class Star Dreadnaught. She was guarded by several smaller Imperial-I, Imperial-II, and Victory I http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Victory-class_Star_Destroyer/Legends and II-class Star Destroyers http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Victory-class_Star_Destroyer/Legends, Vindicator-class Heavy Cruisers http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vindicator-class_heavy_cruiser, and even a few Nebulon-Class http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/EF76_Nebulon-B_escort_frigate/Legends http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nebulon-B2_frigate and Lancer-class Frigates http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lancer-class_frigate/Legends, plus various smaller craft on patrol. There was even an Immobilizer-class Interdictor http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Immobilizer_418_cruiser. Something important was happening here, especially today.

  The station itself consisted of a stretched hexagonal section, where most of the crew's quarters, Hypermatter power source, shuttle bays, and control bridge were located, not to mention the shield generators, and underneath that, attached by a long rectangular section, was a series of 6 hexagonal rings. The parts of the rings facing inwards glowed a dull blue. The station itself was defended by strategically placed turbo-lasers, laser cannons, and missile batteries, as well as 8 squadrons of TIE Fighters and Interceptors, with more being transferred. On the side opposite of the rings was another long rectangular section with shuttle bays dedicated for these fighters, and docking ports for capital ships. The other 4 sides of the main hexagonal section had additional rectangular sections under construction, where docking trenches on the dorsal side and shuttle bays on both the dorsal and side of the sections were to house and support additional units. One was complete, and was awaiting fighter squadrons to be assigned to them. Another was very close, and only needed the finishing touches, such as completing lighting, life support, and having the defensive weaponry installed.

 
 A Lambda-class shuttle launched from the Executor class. Escorting her was a quad of blood red colored TIE Interceptors.

 The station, while not as big as the next under-construction Death Star, was still impressive. Hundreds of levels high, it rivaled the size of the Negotiator that the Lambda departed from, and made the shuttle herself look like an ant compared to a giant. When she came to a rest in one of the stations main shuttle bays, large enough to house a small capital ship such as a CR-90 Corvette, there was entire station's non-essential personal, such as Storm-Troopers and off-duty TIE polite and command staff waiting in well organized lines at attention. Also at attention were mouse droids, astromech droids, and probe droids.
 The Lambda T4a and the escort Interceptors landed, and the shuttle's ramp dropped down, and out came 8 figures: 6 were guards dressed in red: the Emperor's Royal Guard, and 2 were dressed in black. Darth Vader, and his Master, Darth Sidious, Dark Lord of the Sith and Emperor of the Galactic Empire departed and walked onto the hanger deck.

 <for background music flavor, listen to this track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0YPqNwAdp8>
 
 For the crew, and hopefully the readers of this historical log, there was no need for an introduction here. Everyone knew of their reputations. Except for the station's commander apparently.

 "Ah, welcome to Gateway Space Station, you must be Darth Vader", which he said as he reached out a hand to Vader, which he reluctantly took, and gave a cyber-enhanced squeeze.
 "Wow, you have quite a grip there, sir...okay, you can let go now. No seriously, your starting to hurt my hand, which I need to..."
 "The Emperor is somewhat displeased with you. First you fail to meet your schedule, and then you approach the Emperor an in inappropriate manner?!"
 "I was merely treating his Excellency no different from how I would want to be regarded", the commander replied in pain. "Besides, how could he be displeased with the work we have done? The heavy turbo lasers and quad heavy laser cannons ordered from Tiam & Bak have begun installation. Which I might add were not a part of the original station's specs, but added at the request of the Emperor. Heck, I've even ordered a few dozen ion cannons, because I'm guessing you'd want to give those Rebel terrorists a nasty little surprise, assuming they decided to come around. And the station's heart is completely operational!"
 "But you are behind schedule!"
 "The new schedule! I replied to the Emperor's office, and said that it would be difficult to speed up construction unless I had a proportional increase in men and equipment! You can't rush these things, it's just not possible! I've already lost a few good men in an accident when we did try to pick up the kriffing pace! I won't put those under my order in unnecessary risARRGGGHH!!!"
 "Watch your language, or you might utter you last word, Colonel!"
 "Maybe if my hand wasn't in pain, I would measure my words better!"
 Usually, the station's commander was mild-mannered and friendly. Most of the station's complement had never seen him curse, and if he raised his voice, it was only out of friendliness or importance.
 "That will be enough, Lord Vader", said Palpatine as he smiled that nasty smile of his. "The Colonel can have his men and equipment."
 "Yes, my master", and Vader promptly released the hand of the station's commander.
 "However, this is the term of receiving these men and equipment: if you fail to complete this station on schedule by even a second, I will execute you myself"
 Was he kidding? He had this retort in his head, but he thought it best to keep it to himself.
 "Me and my men have already created a list of transfer requests. We believe that everyone on this list are among the best construction crew in the Empire. They are apparently have fantastic work ethic and are among the best in their field, not including those already working here, and at least one person among my staff knows one of the people on this list, and have vouched for them personally by showing me their resumés. I'm quite confident that if you send me each of these ladies and gentlemen, you'll have the best station in the quadrant!" He then reached his hand towards the Emperor, apparently not learning his lesson, but merely wanting to just seal the deal. The Emperor's guards pointed their Force Pikes at the Colonel. Nobody was supposed approach the Emperor like that, not with the increased security measures from over the years since the installation of the New Order.
 "You guys can take my blaster if it makes you feel any better, but the charge is not in it. I wouldn't bring a charged blaster while meeting the Emperor!"
 The Emperor walked past the Colonel as the Royal Guards first looked at each other, and then dog-piled him, and confiscated his Blastech personal pistol. However, they didn't kill him, as they would do with most people. Probably a good thing he told them the charge wasn't in the blaster. It was in a back pocket instead. Probably a hold-over from being a Trooper.
 "You will have your men and equipment, then." Palpatine actually kind of admired the Colonel's work ethic, if not his temerity. The station did indeed look impressive, and he liked the initiative of installing the ion cannons. A smile grew on his face. Oh, if he could only get those accursed Rebels to make a visit here. Then they would see the power of the Empire was no longer limited to this Galaxy. Shortly before he would make them go the way of the Jedi, into the disintegration pile of history! The Colonel was a holdover from the days Galactic Republic, his family lineage's service tracing back millennia. Unfortunately, his sort of temperament was unacceptable for the rule of the Sith, and the Colonel would either have to change with the times, or meet an untimely "retirement". He might meet with the latter anyways.

 The Emperor, former Grand Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, now esteemed leader of the Galactic Empire until he croaks, walked up to a promptly built podium to address all of the personal that were now his captive audience.
 A view screen dropped down behind him, while the stations's comm system transmitted his voice, so that even those on the other side of the hanger bay, or those who couldn't be there due to their duties, could at least hear him, if not see him. His voice and image were transmitted to the nearby voice throughout the nearby fleet.
 "To all of the esteemed crew and pilots of this station, and the nearby fleet, I thank you for your attention. It is with great pleasure that I officially decree this station operational."

 The crew in the command station took this as their cue to activate the station's rift generator. The octagonal rings began to grow pulse in a brighter blue in a sequence, where the the rings closest away from the main section lit up sequentially, and then the furthest. Once the furthest ring lit up, the sequence repeated, but this time, the ring closest from the station's main body stayed lit. And then the sequence started again, but the second most ring stayed lit up, and so on. A violet colored spiraling "whirlpool" began to form. By the time the sequence had reached it's last sixth cycle, the rift was complete. The Negotiator and four Imperial II-class Star Destroyers began to move towards the rift: the Durasteelclad, Regretless, Righteous, and the Pride of Coruscant. Also moving towards the rift acting as escorts was the Victory-class Frontier, the Vindicator class Virtuous, and the Nebulon-B2 Ardent.

 "In two other parts of Imperial space, in classified locations of course, similar military expeditions similar to this one are being launched at this very time", the Emperor began to explain.
 
 It came as a surprise to everyone on the station, other than the Emperor's personal guards and Vader that there were two other Gateway stations. Everyone had assumed that a project this resource intensive and expensive was a one-off example, at least until it was proven to work as advertised.

 Waiting until everyone present had enough time to address what he just informed them of, he continued: "this will be the first time in history since Outbound Flight that we will commit an expedition into unknown space, possibly outside The Galaxy. It is my hope that we will obtain the resources needed to rebuild after the war with the Rebellion is over, and that we might find much needed allies to possibly bring into the fold".

 And with that, the Negotiator and her escorting fleet flew into the rift.
 
 Obligatory background music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja19SzXF6yg

  08.04.2387/Stardate 64590.85

 "Captain's log, Captain Data speaking. We're headed towards Deep Space 4 Portsmouth Starbase, as a waypoint towards diplomatic talks in what was formerly Romulan Imperial space. The events of the Hobus supernova has threatened the stability of the relatively new Typhon Pact with the destruction of Romulus and much of the political establishment, and the Empire is devolving into different factions. It has been 21 days, 10 hours, 1 minute, and 23 seconds since this unfortunate event, and things are beginning to unravel. The Kinshaya, Tholian and Breen leadership are vocally blaming the Federation for the destruction of Romulus and threatening to cut off what few diplomatic ties they have with the us. In addition, their vessels have been acting hostile to us, more than usual. The Kinshaya have already been unhappy with the Federation for some time, as we are allies with their long-time enemy, the Klingon Empire. However, the Gorn, Tzenkethi, and some of the Romulan leadership have agreed to talks, overriding the Kinshaya and Breen. There has been reported aggressions against Federation patrol ships on the Breen and Tholian border, while the Kinshaya have been more aggressive than usual against the Klingons.

 Due to the use of some form of rudimentary form of Transphasic torpedoes by the Tholians, and fears that they will share this technology with their fellow Typhon Pact members, the Enterprise is also transporting a cargo of our own Transphasic torpedoes. Even though many politicians and diplomats have raised objections to Starfleet Command's decision, citing that it could antagonize the Typhon Pact further, the Admiralty has made decision, and has made it a direct order, and upon arriving at Portsmouth, we are to begin supplying the station and it's defense fleet with torpedoes and specifications to replicate further warheads.

  In order to help with the talks, my former commanding officer, now Ambassador Jean Luc Picard, and Commander Kirsten Heimann is traveling onboard. Commander Heinmann has joined us because the Tzenkethi requested her. She and her family have had a good relationship with the Tzenkethi, and it is the United Earth's and the Federation's hope that she will help smooth these talks. As I mentioned earlier, the Tzenkethi used their influence to help insure these peace talks, and that is partially because of their experience with humans like Commander Heimann. They know that whatever their grievances with the Federation that caused them to choose to join the Pact, that the Federation wouldn't have stood by and allowed billions of sentient beings to die.
  Ambassador Picard's presence on the Enterprise is bittersweet, if I'm using the term correctly. It won't be like years ago. Admiral William T. Riker and his wife and former ship's consular, Deanna Troi Riker, are aboard the Titan, as is Wesley Crusher. His mother, Beverly Crusher is now captain of the Pasteur, while Worf is on leave from injuries sustained while fighting the rogue Romulan Nero and his ship. Former captain Geordi La Forge has retired from Starfleet entirely. While I have a great deal of nostalgia for my those who have been my crew mates since I served aboard the Enterprise-D, I am confident those currently under my command are ready for whatever may come from this mission. "

 <Background music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfJSE8Ea94c; replace Enterprising Young Men motifs with motifs from the alternative version of Goldsmith's theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE3kMaUB0dM and you get the idea of what I'd want this background music track to sound like>

 The door alert sounded, and Data told the computer to stop recording and save. "You may come in".

 And in came his old friend and former Captain. "Data, it is usually expected for a Starfleet commanding officer to be on the bridge as a starship approached a space station."

 "Ah, Ambassador Picard. I was merely researching all information pertinent to the upcoming mission, as well as recording a captain's log". Because Data was an advanced android, he could both effortlessly absorb and store information, and record his starlog at the same time.

 "Well, you should come out onto the bridge. We are approaching Starbase Portsmouth, and if I might add, it is an amazing sight."

 "Of course Ambassador."

 "Captain on the bridge", announced the First Officer.

 "Approaching Starbase Portsmouth", announced Joanna Faur, the Enterprise's helm officer, or pilot in layman's term.

 "Ah, and so our dear Captain comes out of sulking in his room!", said Commander Jorana Boran, the Enterprise's Tellarite second in command bellowed. Tellarites are argumentative by nature, and are known as such by much of the Beta and especially the Alpha Quadrant. Boran had a wicked sense of humor, and she wasn't afraid to use it. She had a large, muscular build, but was what you might call a gentle giant.

 She continued with her "polite greeting" to her captain. "If you're going to spend most of your time off the bridge, maybe you should apply for desk job as Admiral, and I can take take command of the Enterprise"

 Much of the command crew had a smirk on their faces. Boran's delightful wit helped to loosen the tension on the bridge, no matter the mission.

 "Commander Boran, I only spend 13.6 percent of my time in my ready room, and as Captain, it is my duty to analyze the performance of this ship's crew, and record captain's logs to be reviewed by superior officers. I have become 10.2 percent more efficient at cutting down that time since you first complained about this. What more could you ask me to do?"

 "Oh, come on! You're a freaking android with a brain far more efficient than I could ever hope for! I bet you could reduce it to 5% if you put that positronic brain to your best use possible!" said the Tellarite with a much mirth.

 On the view screen, the warped image of warp speed gave way to the blackness of space, stars, and the blue Typhon Expanse. It was in this spacial phenomenon that the Enterprise's predecessor had been repeatedly destroyed in 2368 when she was caught in a time loop. Fortunately, she broke out of it. The exact cause of this was still under investigation to this very day.

 Ahead of the Enterprise was Starbase Portsmouth: a home away from home for Federation Starships and their crews to and from exploratory missions into the Beta Quadrant beyond the former Romulan Empire.

 Kirsten steppet forward, awed by the sight before her and the rest of the bridge crew. "Wow, I've heard that starbases be that big, but I never imagine how amazing a sight it would be. And to imagine we'll soon be docking aboard her."

 The grand-daughter of Rochus Heinmann and Charlotte Ainsworth, crew members of the U.E.S. Polaris NCC-0782, and indeed, Rochus was later the commanding officer of an Arbiter variant of the Akyazi-class Perimeter Action Vessel http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/perimeteraction_arbiter.jpg, one that she hailed from quite a family. Indeed, it is because of her heritage that she could play a pivotal role in helping to keep a cordial relationship with the Typhon Pact, of which the Tzenkethi were part of. The Heinmann's were always welcomed by the Tzenkethi for their help against the Kzinti, and due their role of being a part of the vessel that came to their aid when the rest of the Federation wouldn't. She only hoped would be able to make the difference everyone was hoping for.

 She was helping Picard learn about the intricacies of Tzenkethi culture, as well as Kinshaya and Tholian culture, from what their Tzenkethi allies had learned about from being a member of the Pact. Picard had already learned enough due to having contact with the Gorn, and the Romulan especially on numerous times. Indeed, former commanding officer of the IRW Valdore, now Empress Donatra was also instrumental on keeping things the relationship between the Federation and Pact cordial. For now.

 Boran gave out a loud snort. "Yeah impressive! Impressive how it looks like a big fat shiny target! It looks like one of those snow globes you humans like, surrounded by a big fat ring, and all it takes is one successful torpedo hit, and hey, have fun dying of decompression folks!"

 "Actually, that is 12 inch thick transparent duranium alloy, which is stronger than the hull separating us from the vacuum", Data stated, always the know-it-all, something that Boran was already happy to rub in his face. Data saw that as a good thing. Federation science had allowed the creation of an alloy that was like diamond and nano-carbon fiber tubules, but flexible like transparent aluminum, and most transparent material was made out of it nowadays. "In addition, the station is well protected with other defense mechanisms. In the event of an attack, it is highly likely that the civilians would be safe."

 "Oh, how much?" asked Boran with a curious smirk.

 "Approximately 68.3%, given all known variables", Data said.

 "Oh goody, so if the Borg all the sudden attacked, we could just hide in here until they get bored", Boran replied sarcastically.

 "That was after the Borg Collective was joined with the Caelier Gestalt", replied Data

 "Oh yeah, we don't have to worry about them any more!", said Boran. "I knew that!", she added.

 "Well, I wish that we had fleet bases like these in the United Earth region" opined Kirsten.

 "There is no need for such luxurious stations when you can just beam down to a perfectly good home to the orbiting planet below. Starbases like this are designed specifically for locations where there isn't a perfectly hospitable planet, and where a large population is expected, to reduce the strain of long times in space, many times ranging from years to decades. If you want to visit such stations, then you should join Starfleet, and request multi-year missions of exploration", said Picard with a smirk and a wink.

 Jean Luc appreciated Kirsten's priority towards focusing her efforts on protecting Earth, rather than serving in Starfleet. She was smart, driven. If she applied herself, she could probably eventually earn herself the command of a Vesta class. Kirsten thought of Jean Luc similarly in an opposite way, thinking he could have been an Admiral by now if he had focused his career on galactic defense instead of exploration, but understanding his need to get out there. It was also a shame that he had chosen to give up his career as a Starfleet officer for politics. He was one of the best officers of his time, and his exploits were legendary. She felt honored to spend so much of her time with a living legend.

 Jean Luc knew there was no way that he would convince her to request a transfer from the First Fleet into Starfleet, any more than she could convince him to rejoin Starfleet, or even spend some of his time in the First Fleet, where his experience would be welcomed. It was slowly becoming a running gag between the two, and whole ship. Between the Dominion War and the Borg, much of the First Fleet's seasoned officers ranks had been depleted. Just one year just so the First Fleet could get back on it's fleet and become independent of the ships and crew on loan from the main fleet would be a huge boon. But everyone knew that Jean Luc was done with being an officer. He just felt his diplomatic skills were more useful than his skills as a warrior. And with Spock MIA, those skills were needed more than ever.

 Portsmouth consisted of a globe the size of her early 23rd Century predecessor design, Star Station Yorktown, and her interior was set up more or less in the same fashion.
 Surrounding the equator was a thick ring. This was where starships parked for shorter durations and vessels taking a break from patrol, so that God/whatever deity you believe in forbid, the station come under attack, those ships might depart quickly and come to the station's defense. Above, below, and inside this hanger ring was smaller hanger bays for fighters and shuttles.
 This hanger ring had tubes leading throughout the length of the station, where starships that didn't intend to leave anytime soon stayed, for reasons such as refit or weeks of R&R for the ship and their crew. it was done this way to cut down on congestion between the station's local protection force, and visiting vessels. After the chaos of the Battle of Yorktown in 2263 when an insane former Starfleet officer, his crew, and assimilated crewmen from ships downed by Edison over time attacked the station with old alien starships, and tried to kill the entire population with an ancient weapon, this sort of design feature was integrated into the Yorktown Base over upgrades and refits, due to the fact that starships docked at the base couldn't move out of the base fast enough to engage. Not helping matters was that Edison had sent a false distress call, luring away the small fleet meant to guard Yorktown. Fortunately, Edison was stopped by the crew of the of a ship sent to investigate a disappearance of starship in a nearby nebula using the Franklin in an unorthodox fashion.

 Also available was a few dozen external dry-docks orbiting around Portsmouth, just in case that demand for a stay on the starbase was higher than the station could support. Crews could transport to the station proper via transporter, or if preferred, shuttle.

 Temporally taking a break to top off their deuterium tanks in external dry-docks were two Akira-class Heavy Cruisers: the U.S.S. Kaneda NCC-79325, and the U.S.S. Fearless NCC-75978.

 Patrolling the area in space in wolf-packs were Valkyrie-class Starfighters. A pair flew quickly by the Enterprise, before diverting quickly back to their patrol flight plan. Why not? It wasn't everyday the flagship of the Federation came strolling in, and it took them seconds to return to where they were supposed to be. And if they were all the sudden attacked, it wouldn't be a bad thing for them to be there to support the Enterprise. It was far economical to use fighters as scouts, rather than Saber-class Scouts, since they were less resource intensive to produce, and they were quick and heavily armed and shielded enough so they could give capital ships grief until bigger starships could engage. Not that there weren't Saber class vessels patrolling the system too. One was heading back towards base, to be the first to receive transphasic torpedoes. After she headed back on patrol, another would repeat the process, and another, until they were all armed. In this way, they'd be able to take on starships many times their size.

 "Sir, we're being hailed by Portsmouth", said female human/Vulcan communications specialist lieutenant T'Ryssa Chen. Also known as Trys.

 "Put 'em on screen", said Boran.

 "Enterprise, this is Portsmouth traffic control. You are cleared for docking. Please head towards docking bay 7, docking port 1. And of course, welcome to Starbase Portsmouth, and we hope you enjoy your stay!"

 "Understood, and thank you traffic control. Well, you heard him Lieutenant Faur, take us in!", Boran ordered.

 The Enterprise's helmsman put her on a course towards her assigned docking port, passing defensive weapons platforms, Valkyries, and one MacPherson-class Transport http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/macpherson-class-heavy-transport.php. The U.S.S. Everhart NCC-27309, and work bees were offloading cargo pods from her ventrally mounted transport pods.

 At last, ahead was the Enterprise's assigned docking berth. To her right docked in docking berth 2 was a Galaxy class. The U.S.S. Paris, Navigational Contract Code 73987. She was one of the production runs from the Bright Star upgrade first launched in 2370.

 Jean Luc's eyes grew misty. The Paris reminded him on his second command, the Enterprise-D, a starship that was gone before her time. It had been 16 years, but the wound was still there, the command of his dream destroyed by a bloody 80 year old scout. That wasn't to say that the Enterprise-E wasn't a fine ship. The Sovereign class was a bloody fine design, sleek, fast, and capable. But she lacked some of the grandeur of Chief Starship Designer Andrew Probert's masterpiece.

 Even though launched 30 years ago, and stuck with the less than optimum Warp Drive, the Galaxy class was still a workhorse of the Federation. Starfleet was attempting research into installing Quantum Slipstream on ships not designed to use them to keep most of the fleet from becoming obsolete, but was only having limited success at best. Most vessels not designed for Slipstream experienced the same problem as the Voyager when she tried to use it: unstable, hard to control flights. They were being tightly controlled, because it was learned quickly that loosing control in Slipstream could be disastrous even from the data of Voyager's attempted flight back home.

 Docked in berth 3 was the Federation One http://stourangeau.deviantart.com/art/Federation-One-3D-Shots-1-81872072. The transport of choice for the President of the United Federation of Planets, on board was the ambassadors chosen by the Tholian Assembly, the Holy Order of the Kinshaya, the Tzenkethi Coalition, and the Gorn Hegemony, other ambassadors chosen by the Federation, and heading the peace talks was to be the female Andorian zhen Kellessar zh'Tarash. Her presence was to send a message of faith to the Pact powers, in spite of the inherent dangers of traveling near the Romulan Neutral Zone (not that it was really being enforced very much nowadays).

 The Federation One was different from when she first took flight. After the success of Slipstream designs like the Vesta class, and limited success with fitting designs such as the Intrepid, Norway, Oslo http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Oslo_class, Luna, and Akira classes with Slipstream units, in order to keep her from falling into obsolescence, she was given a heavy refit in 2385. This consisted of better bleeding her primary and secondary hulls together, replacing her navigational deflectors with those based off of the Vesta class, replacing the pylons attaching the escort and nacelles with units that were more curved from the front and back and better blended into the hull, and the nacelles now resembled the units used by the Sparrow http://jeszasz.deviantart.com/art/Sparrow-class-Frigate-Prelimary-Detail-Sketches-539188704 or Vesta class. Finally, the detachable escort was replaced by an experimental unit that was designed for Slipstream, and thus was sleeker. Much of the data taken from her flights was being used for the Escort Cruiser designs that were to supplement and replace the Defiant and Avenger classes https://web.archive.org/web/20050214082413/http://mindseye.scifi-art.com/01/AVENGER_ORBIT.JPG. The previous escort was now a museum ship in orbit of Earth's Orbital Smithsonian Starfleet Museum.

 Then there was docking berth 4, which housed the IRW Kerchan http://orig15.deviantart.net/67c4/f/2011/189/5/8/kerchan_class_data_sheet_by_euderion-d3lf290.jpg. On board was the Romulan delegation. The Kerchan class was the result of the lessons learned from the horrendous losses of D'deridex class warbirds during the Dominion War, and the result was a somewhat smaller, more maneuverable starship. Guarding the area was a pair of Raptor-class Cruisers http://www.moddb.com/mods/sacrifice-of-angels-2/images/romulan-raptor-class.
 If they caused any trouble, the defense platforms would blow them to smithereens. They were being armed with some of the transphasic torpedoes that the Enterprise had brought with her.

 The Steamrunner-class Escort Cruiser U.S.S. Isaribi NCC-56233 passed by, on her way to docking bay 8 to receive transphasic torpedoes, while the Zodiac-class http://www.trekships.org/aegis-5views.jpg U.S.S. Sierra Nevada NCC-61000 passed by in the opposite direction on the way to docking bay 6.

 At last, the Enterprise pulled in, and various docking gantry tubes extended into place, giving multiple sections of the ship's crew egress if they wanted. Various securing mechanisms also docked with the ship, while ports opened on the command hull, which additional securing mechanisms locked into. These mechanisms and ports were being introduced throughout the fleet, and the latest vessels such as the Vesta class already had them, as did recently refitted vessels. This was for two reasons.
 1) To top off the docked vessel's power grid, which would then be stored in the ship's capacitors for later use. Better to go into the unknown fully charged. Deuterium and anti-matter were also being restocked in their respective stores, but channeling these throughout the ship could be dangerous.
 2) To prevent attempts from unauthorized personal to steal a Starfleet vessel, similar to what happened with the Osiris-class Escort http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/escort_osiris.jpg U.S.S. Isis NCC-74333 at the end of the Dominion War, when Changelings attempted to hijack her in a desperate attempt to leave the Federation. Fortunately,she was disabled, and the Changelings prosecuted as enemy agents.
 However, the senior staff could still commander their ship, assuming they had the right codes. This was an exception lobbied by Admirals Hikaru Sulu, Leonard McCoy, Pavel Chekov and Nyota Uhura, and was approved considering that if not for them, Earth would have been rendered lifeless if not for the events that occurred after they helped steal the Enterprise in 2284. It could be argued that when trust in all else fails, you can still put your lives in the hands of a good Starfleet officer.
 
 Much of the Enterprise's crew took the opportunity for shore leave. They would need it. This was the third time the Enterprise-E was headed into Romulan space, and with their luck, it was expected this mission would be no more uneventful than the last two (this didn't include her predecessors forays into Romulan space).

 There were many there to great them. For one, the delegation from the Federation One and Kerchan had been invited to stay aboard the Portsmouth for the several days until the peace talks would begin on a planet in the Romulan Neutral Zone as hashed out by all parties.

 But there were also surprise guests: it was quite a scene, watching much of the crew going to meet family and friends that they hadn't seen in a while, some in years. The different species of the Enterprise crew greeted each other in different ways. For example, Trys's human mother Antigone Chen hugged her, while her father Sylix greeted her with the signature Vulcan salute. Boran's family and friends on the other hand engaged in "polite discourse" typical of Tellarites.

 The delegation had mixed feelings. The Tholian Ambassador for example kept his eyes trained on Jean Luc and Data as they approached the Delegation and the station's commanding officer: Admiral Samuel Choudler, who had left his more than capable second in command to come down and meet the legendary crew of the Enterprise. Those who could read Tholian body language would deem such an emotional display as a waste of time, especially given the circumstances.

 Even much of the senior crew had wandered off to see family and friends. Normally, it would be impossible for them to be here, since it would normally take a year for most family members to travel from across the quadrant at maximum warp. The first of the Quantum Slipstream-capable starliners made much of their presences here possible. Those who didn't live on a core Federation world hitched a ride on a Starfleet vessel. For example, Dygan's parents had traveled on the newly refitted Interceptor-class Destroyer http://mavek-cg.deviantart.com/art/USS-Interceptor-Ventral-Bow-Stern-471890795 U.S.S. Buccaneer NCC-77203. Picking up civilians was considered a good way to make sure that the relatively new technology was working properly before going out onto deep space assignments, especially those that weren't designed to utilize it. The Buccaneer had already departed Portsmouth and was scheduled to rendezvous with the Full Circle Fleet currently exploring the Delta Quadrant.

 "Ah, Captain Data, Ambassador Picard, it is great to meet you. I must say, you have quite the reputations, so it is an honor to host you on my humble station, and your starship of course", Choulder said as the in turn shook each other's hands.

 "Thank you Admiral, but your command post is hardly humble. It is a kilometer and a half Pensacola-class...", Data was cut off by his former commanding officer.
 "Data, just smile and thank the Admiral. But he's right. You have command of quite a base.", he said with a smile on his face, now that he no longer had to deal with Data's...anachronisms on a regular basis. "She is quite a beauty though, isn't she?"
 "Thank you, and yes, that she is. Sovereign-class Heavy Cruiser. Same thing goes for Portsmouth I guess! We take pride in taking good care of visiting starships. The Enterprise will be no exception to that." The Admiral was quite excited at having a legendary crew and starship at his starbase. "Anyways, since we're all here, it's getting close to lunch time. I'd be honored if you, your crew, and the Delegation from the Typhon Pact allowed me to prepare a banquet in your honor. I suppose it would also allow the politicians to break the ice, eh?"

 "I might deign to accept this, assuming...compatible cuisine is served", voiced the Gorn ambassador. They considered cooked meats to be...inappropriate. "I am feeling a bit peckish from my travels".

 "I'm sure we can work out something for everybody. You give me a day, and we could even have an unreplicated meal, with ingredients flown in from anywhere!", replied Choulder. The new Slipstream-capable freighters had started delivered cargo anywhere in the quadrant nowadays.

 "Perhaps we will take you up on your offer tomorrow then, the Romulan ambassador chimed in. "For now, I trust that your replicators can do a good enough job. I hear that Federation replicator technology has refined so much to the point that you can't tell the difference between the real thing".

 "Depends if we override the predesignated vitamin and minerals settings", Choulder replied.

  "Then that settles it" chimed in President zh'Tarash, "I propose you bring data pads filled with your favorite meals, and feed them into our replicator stations. I believe that this will help break up any further tensions between our associated powers".

 Jean Luc suddenly had a pair of hands cover his hands from behind. "Guess who.", a female voice said in a sing-song voice. He knew that voice anywhere, since he had not only been married to her for 7 years, but also served with her for 23 years.
 "Beverly!", Jean Luc replied as he turned around to embrace his wife. "What are you doing here?"

 "When I heard that you were coming, I thought that I would make a quick resupply run to Portsmouth", Beverly replied with a smile on her face. The Pasteur had been among the ships giving aid to Romulan space over the weeks since the Hobus Disaster, necessary when the rogue Romulan Nero destroyed 2 of the Olympic-class Hospital Ships and the somewhat new slipstream capable Galen Emergency Medical Vessel http://galen82.deviantart.com/art/Galen-Class-EMV-370488555 originally sent to provide aid. There were many displaced Romulans who were on business and vacation trips when their home was destroyed. The U.S.S. Moore NCC-54216 and the U.S.S. Hippocrates NCC-68468 were assisting the Pasteur.

 At the same time, less than 1 AU a way, a hole in space was forming, which disgorged the Imperial task force into Federation Space (not that they would recognize it as such). To the Rebels, such a sight would make their blood run cold. The sensor officers on duty knew that this was probably not a good thing. And the size of that one ship!

 Admiral Choudler's combadge chirriped. One the comms was one of the sensor officers manning the Portsmouth was on the line. "Sir, we have a small fleet of vessels approaching our stellarspace. Many of them are large, and they appear to have their shields raised and weapons armed".

 Guess lunch would have to wait. "Understood, I'll be there immediately. In the mean time, recall all of our guard fleet to the station's defensive perimeter, put shields and weapons on standby, tell all ships to prepare to deploy, get our loaders to hurry up with distributing those new torpedoes, and hail them. Oh, and we might need to deploy the armor. Sorry, but it looks like we might have to do this some other time".

 In order to help protect stations like the Portsmouth whose habitable section consisted on a transparent module so that crew and families could look up at the stars, they often had a set of armor that would surround the transparent duranium hull, deploying like a set of clamshell shuttle doors. Made out of 12 inch polarized-capable duranium armor, they were the secondary line of defense for protecting the station's inhabitants. They deployed in a way so that they wouldn't block the docking tunnels, so ships could still evacuate if all else failed. Of course, Starfleet really wanted to to install the deployable armor technology that the Voyager brought with her from the Delta Quadrant. But due to the fact that the technology was assimilated from a future version of Kathryn Laneway by the Borg Queen shortly before being killed by a neurolytic pathogen, and thus dismissed as being of use as an anti-Borg defense, and being from the year 2404, the Department of Temporal Investigations determined they would have to get by without it for the moment. The Federation from that timeline was apparently doing well, and they wanted to make sure the Federation in this timeline survived as well. Deploying a technology from the future could have unforeseen consequences, and if not for the Borg Invasion of 2381 and the need to utilize the ships they had to their fullest potential, they wouldn't have allowed the use of Transphasic Torpedoes.

 "Always eventful when we're together Jean Luc", Beverly couldn't help but comment.
 "Always eventful whenever the Enterprise is nearby", Jean Luc responded.

 "What is happening?", asked the Kinshayan ambassador. "Are we under attack?"

 "I don't know. But we'll find out soon enough. I'm sorry, but it against regulations the Typhon Pact Delegation to join me in the CIC, but I'll allow you to interface with our communications, so you can listen to the conversation, assuming they even answer our hails."

 Admiral Ayron Nyrok was surprised by a number of things. 1) The station ahead of him. It was obviously the work of a very advanced society. It looked like crystal ball surrounded by an off-white ring. Consisting of round shapes and gentle curves, it was a shame that he would have to annex her. But the Emperor had made it very clear to him in person that the Empire needed resources, otherwise, the Rebels might have their last laugh, leaving the Empire in an economic depression with their impetuous war, and so a strong hand was necessary. If the Empire could take control of this space station, they'd have a foothold. And it looked just big enough to service vessels up to the size of Imperial-class Star Destroyers, if the initial scans were anything to go by. Not that they were much. It appeared that the station had their own jamming system that deflected most of their scans. If he could somehow bribe the factions he encountered into giving the Empire what it needed, or better yet, joining the Empire fine. But he was not to take no for an answer.

 2) He was surprised that the station was hailing him. They had not yet raised their shields or armed their weapons, at least not completely. It seemed that the civilization responsible for this beautiful jewel floating in space was quite principled. Sure there were also some small ships that had altered their courses throughout this area of space, and were now on an intercept course, but he would have done no differently himself. If he could only get them to join the Empire, it was obvious they had a great deal of resources, which would help in the fight against the Rebellion. If not, well, too bad for them. He would have to take responsibility of imposing a "tax" on them. And would be enforced by whatever means. He didn't always feel comfortable with such policies, but it was a necessary evil. Recognizing as such and following orders, no matter how horrific was how he was now in command of one of the finest starships in the Imperial Navy.

  But there appeared to be some difficulties getting their visual.

 "We have them on audio Admiral", explained the Communications Chief, "but we seem to be having difficulty getting visual. We're getting their signal, but we need to reformat it to be compatible with our systems"

 "Well, please keep trying. In the meantime, I guess I have things to discuss with these visitors", Choulder then turned to the comm system.
 "Yessir", replied the Comms Chief as he set to work getting visual
"Attention to all unknown vessels, this is Admiral Samuel Choulder, you have entered Federation Space, and what is worse, you have done so with a number of vessels with weapons raised and shields active. You will power down your weapons and withdraw all but one of your vessels, or you will leave us no alternative but to assume that you mean this station and it's inhabitants harm, and we are prepared to defend ourselves."

 "Why can't we see them"? Whispered Nyrok to his chief communications officer.

 "It's because they don't use anything like the Holonet we use, sir", the chief of communications explained. They were getting audio loud and clear. But they would have to adapt their system to display their version of a visual. "We're getting a signal that I think transmits their version of a visual transmission, but I need to translate it into a format compatible with our technology".

 "Well, see if you can't give us visual. I'd prefer to look upon the faces of whom I'm talking to. This is an important moment in Galactic history, after all", to which the communications technicians and chief got to work. In the meantime, it was time to deal with the natives.

 "This is Admiral Ayron Nyrok of the Galactic Empire, commanding officer of the Imperial Star Destroyer Negotiator. I apologize for our intrusion. We are on a expeditionary mission in search of resources and allies, which have been sorely depleted due to a revolutionary war. It is a desperate time for the government that I represent. We request that you allow us to use your base as a stopping point while we search this area of space for resources, at least until we can construct our own nearby space station. We of course would be more than happy to compensate you for your hospitality. And do you have a visual transmission system due to our Holonet? My technicians say that we are receiving a signal that we believe is supposed to be visual."

 "Not only do we have a visual transmission system, Admiral, but most communications is done in this very fashion in this area of space. And my own team of technicians are trying to reformat what we believe is your version of a visual transmission into something compatible with our systems. Great minds think alike, I guess? Now about your request...we've scanned your vessels. Thoroughly. They are what we'd consider possible ships of war. Four of them are what we'd consider dreadnoughts or battleships, 1 of them a heavy cruiser or battleship, one of them a battlecruiser, and one of them a heavy frigate, assuming our terminologies are the same.
 
 And your ship, the Negotiator, which is a whale of a ship by the way, and I mean that in the best way possible, is what we'd probably call a heavy mobile battle station or super heavy dreadnought. Now, with that in mind, I'm afraid that Starfleet Command wouldn't take kindly if I agreed to service a fleet of warships from a power we know NOTHING about. THAT would be against regulations. And PLUS, you came in with shields and weapons powered up, which I believe I said could be interpreted as an act from a hostile power."

 He left out the fact that having the name "Empire" in the name of the government that Nyrok was representing had a negative connotation to Choulder, and indeed most Federation citizens. Then again, the Andorian Empire was a member of the Federation, so maybe that chill going down his spine was nothing.       

 "And I apologize for that as well. But you have to understand that over the past few decades, the Empire has been at war with multiple powers. Not only are we having to contend with an active rebellion from a terrorist organization, but we have been at war with other powers and criminal organizations as well. We have been constantly under attack by hostile powers, so you have to understand our precautions. And I must insist that you service our ships during our stay in your part of space. I can't afford to take no for an answer. I'm sorry, but those are my standing orders from my Emperor".

 "Well, you can tell this Emperor that..."

 "Excuse me Admiral, thank you but I'd like to take this from here", President zh'Tarash interrupted. She could see that things were starting to go downhill, as the human saying went. At the same time, one of the technicians exclaimed. "Aha, voila! We got visual Admiral! Oh, sorry to interrupt you Zha President! But hey, at least you can now look at the person you are taking to!".

 "Thank you, and no problem at all", the Federation President replied.

 The holographic display flickered to life in the CIC of the Portsmouth and the Negotiator simultaneously. For the crew of the Portsmouth, the holographic display came in the form of a blue middle aged human figure, while for Nyrok and those of his crew who were able to take the time to serve as witness, it came in the form of a fully colored 3D imagine of a the Admiral and this President who he had been speaking to, with what appeared to be a part of the control room in the background. It appeared that the Admiral named Samuel Choulder was human, something that Nyrok was not expecting. As was some of the crew in the background.

 "Let me introduce myself: I am Kellessar zh'Tarash, the President of the United Federation of Planets, elected to represent said government. I already know why you are here, but let me make this clear: if you attempt to force yourselves on us, you will permanently damage our newfound relationship. Admiral Choulder is right, it is Starfleet regulations that we only allow the service of ships deemed as made for combat if they are from our allies, or they have our trust. You continue this rhetoric, and I will have to say no wonder that you have so many enemies, what with the rhetoric you are using against us!"

 "I can't help but notice that you appear to be human, Admiral. If you don't mind, I'd like to have one of my tactical officers scan you to confirm it", Choulder chimed in. Curiosity got the best of him.

 He was a bold one, this Admiral. But honestly, Nyrok was thinking the same thing. "Yes, I was curious about that as well. If you don't mind, we'd like to scan you as well".

 "You're free to do so, but if we see you trying to sniff into our tactical systems, our tactical electronic countermeasures will firm up", Choulder agreed.

 "We have jamming systems as well, which I hold quite the confidence in", Nyrok replied "You won't be able to learn anything about the Negotiator unless I want you to".

 A minute later, the results came in. And even though both sides expected the results, it was still came as a shock.

 "Looks like we're somewhat related, Admiral", Choulder couldn't help but say. "Human. We're the same species!"

 "Yes, when I went on this trip, I would have never thought to wager the odds that we would meet other humans", Nyrok said.

 "Is your crew multi-race like ours?", Choulder asked, curious.

 "Ah...no. Our crew is entirely human.", Nyrok answered.

 "Then you don't have any non-Human members in your Empire?", this admission was a bit concerning. Were they like the Terran Empire from an alternate timeline, a dark version of the Federation where a totalitarian humanocentric dictatorship ruled by an emperor? This same mirror version of the Empire had tried to invade this universe on a few occasions. In fact, it looked like multiple versions of the Empire tried to invade, fortunately, with no success so far.

 "We used to have multi-race crews in the past, but due to a separatist movement by most of the other races, the Emperor decreed that other races couldn't be trusted in high military positions", Nyrok explained. "There is still a lot of anti-non-human sentiment from that turbulent period of time, and the ongoing revolt I mentioned earlier is devolving into an outright civil war. Of course, there are exceptions for those who prove their loyalty to the Empire."

 "And how do they prove their loyalty to your Empire?", Choulder was determined to find out if this Empire was a threat to the Federation, which he suspected more and more with every passing moment.

 "I'm sorry, but it is not Imperial policy to divulge regulatory information to a foreign power! I did not come here to be interrogated by anyone, not you Admiral, not anyone!" Bingo. The only reason for Nyrok to have gotten his feathers so ruffled was because he was hiding something. It's not that he couldn't answer the question, so much as he didn't want to. zh'Tarash's Betazoid aide could feel the same thing, and she agreed with his unvoiced a
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2016, 06:02:26 PM »
Well, first things first you're going to have to fix the links.  Captain Obvious away!



More seriously, I start with a nitpick.  I don't think you need the parentheses around the ship registries.

Now for more important things.
1)  I think you should separate "author's notes" from the actual story (with or without a horizontal line).  Possibly even italicize them to help distinguish them.  Or use the "Font Face" box to change fonts.
For example:
Stuff and stuff.  History and stuff.



Once upon a time in a galaxy far, far away...

This makes it easier on the reader.  Also I would recommend putting all (or most of) the "author's notes" at the start of the entry.

2) Personally I would break this up into multiple smaller sections and put each section as a different post.  (Look at any of my threads on this sub-forum or anything by MelekOmega for an example.)  It makes it easier on the reader and easier on you if/when you go back to edit something.

3) Unlike dA you can use the link function to turn parts of the post into hyperlinks.  So anytime you use a fan designed ship you can make any mention of it into a link to an appropriate drawing.

4) I found it useful to learn the various commands (i.e. how to italicize or bold) and put that into the Word file I was working on.  Then copy/paste the thing into the forum and do any proofreading to make sure the formatting was right.  For example, just write out (i)Enterprise(/i) (but with brackets instead of parentheses) in Word and it will show up on the forum as Enterprise.

I've only skimmed it so far and will have story notes when I've had time to read it properly (aside from things I've said on dA already).
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2016, 01:31:52 PM »
 Yeah, sorry about the links. This was a quick copy and paste, since I had to get ready for work soon. I'll make the necessary changes. I'll also try to make the other changes you suggested on SpaceBattles.com, and then copy and paste the new version here. Actually, I should do that first!

 And the reason it is so long is because I just kept on adding more and more, until you get what you see now. When I posted this on TrekBBS, I had to break it down into four parts. I'll try to break them down into smaller parts (when I figure out what is small enough is!), if that is the common consensus of what to do. Right now, I'm busy corresponding with writers and fan fiction readers on how to proceed. More on that once I made the necessary changes.

 I'll even copy and paste the necessary correspondences. There is more to come before I write the next part!

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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2016, 06:19:37 PM »
On the matter of posting in smaller sections.  The simplest thing to do, with this first part of the story, would be to separate by which universe its taking place in.  So the Prologue and Star Wars scene would be the first post, and the second post would be the Star Trek scene, and so on.  Of course that only works when the two universes are separate...

...For an example of how to do joint scenes: I wrote Frontlines in script format so it was divided into a Teaser and then however many Acts.  When I posted it here the Teaser would be one post, then each Act would get cut into smaller pieces depending on the scene.  For a specific example, in the first "episode" Act One consists of a commissioning ceremony for a new ship and Sisko returning to the mortal realm in the Temple on DS9.  So I cut those two scenes into separate posts.  Basically every time I switched story focus I broke it into a new post.  I usually just put a "Fade Out" or "Smash Cut To Black" at the end of each post but you could do like MelekOmega and put a "To Be Continued" at the end of each post.

Of course, if you don't want to break apart something you already posted you could use the horizontal line feature to break up the different sections.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2016, 09:55:32 AM »
 I probably won't break up the first part (though I might use the horizontal line, assuming I can figure out how to do so).
 
 In the meantime, there is also discussion of where to take the story here: https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/a-war-between-two-galaxies-a-star-wars-star-trek-story.464671/

 I'd like your input regarding the discussion points, such as where to take the story. If you wish, I could also copy and paste the relevant posts here too.

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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2016, 03:50:20 PM »
To get a horizontal line either type "hr" in brackets or press the "horizontal line" button.  Above the text window there's a bunch of features, the horizontal line button is a horizontal line (right under the "Change Color" box).  Likewise you can use the "insert hyperlink" button to turn Oslo-class http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Oslo_class into Oslo-class.  This is how you would type that...
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[url=http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Oslo_class]Oslo-class[/url]
As for the story itself, I think it might be better to describe Portsmouth before the officers talk about it.  Also how would the Prime Timeline know about something that happened in the Kelvin Timeline (unless of course your suggesting that the same event happened, but differently, in both timelines).  Sulu et. al. are still alive in the late 24th century... Damn.  Also I'm not sure Starfleet would use terms like "heavy mobile battle station" or "super heavy dreadnought".  Granted, I don't have any good replacement suggestions for you, though personally I find super heavy dreadnought a little silly sounding.   Also needs moar edits.  Near the start when the Emperor is touring the station, it would be nice to have some spaces between dialog and non-dialog (like you do later).

As for where to take the story...  I got nothing right now.  Sorry.  (Obviously there's about to be a battle at Portsmouth but other than that...)
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2016, 09:35:42 PM »
Going through the thread you posted.  Having POTUFP talk with the Emperor over subspace is probably the most logical option, though the Emperor heading to Portsmouth or POTUFP heading to Gateway would probably make for a more interesting story.  How long do you want this story to be?  Is it supposed to be roughly equivalent to a two-to-three hour movie? Several movies? A full series?

I ask out of general curiosity and also it's probably something you should think about as far as where the story goes.  I billed Frontlines as a "virtual mini-series", but the story is a galactic scale war that takes place in all four quadrants.  I've got roughly 11 "1 hr episodes" fully written and bits of a 12th episode and I'm probably only a third of the way through the overall story.  My point is you should probably think ahead to how long you want it (or at least an estimate) lest you wind up in a situation like mine.  I've got the beginning, I know a few things I want to do, I know how it ends, but how do I get from where I am to there? (And that's not even taking into account all the crap I'm going to have to rewrite if I ever start working on it again...)

Also you might want to pause a bit to work out some kind of backstory/timeline.  Which novels and fan-fics are you using?  Maybe write a timeline that gives a brief summary of the events of those novels/fan-fics. Give some backstories for more important new characters (or link to a backstory of a character your borrowing).

You also mentioned sucking at names.  I too, suck at names.  These links may help, with human names at least.
http://babynames.allparenting.com/babynames/Ideas/South_African_Baby_Names_and_Meanings_Boys_and_Girls/
http://www.familyeducation.com/baby-names/browse-origin/surname/norwegian
http://www.name-statistics.org/za/numedefamiliecomune.php
http://www.top-100-baby-names-search.com/south-african-baby-names.html
Or just Google "Common (sur)names" in whatever country you want the character to be from.

For (Trek) alien names, I basically wrote down all my Star Trek Online character and bridge officer names and played mix-and-match with them earlier this year when I decided to work on backstory again.  I suppose you could do something similar by searching Memory Alpha, Beta, and/or Gamma (I think there's a Gamma, or maybe its just the Expanded Universe wiki).  For (Trek) Ship names I have a few suggestions if your interested.

Also this site may help with writing: TV Tropes.
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Re: A War Between Two Galaxies
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2016, 01:37:46 PM »
Update to be posted to both Subspace Comms and Spacebattles.com. This is a separate post so that all who have an alert on this thread see it. Unfortunately, there is no such thing on Subspace Comms, but oh well.

I have gathered all possible scenarios of how the next chapter will go. Please vote on it not just based on how much you like them, but realism as well.

1) The Emperor, his guards, and Vader visits the station. The Emperor tries to bring Storm Commandoes, thinking them, him, and his apprentice can take the station by surprise, and kill the leaders there, including the President, or hold her hostage. They don't expect the station's sensors to detect them, and are surprised by Starfleet security, and a fight breaks out in both the hanger, and in space as the Empire attempts to take the station. The downside is that I have no doubt the Federation has a general order in case a powerful individual tries to take over a station (e.i. evacuate and then self-destruct the station), and that means Vader and Palpatine would either have to escape on board a ship, or we'd have to accept their death a lot sooner than was supposed to happen.
Note: There is the possibility that they think of inviting the Emperor to a negotiation, complete with a banquet (good way to soften the mood, and I'd think making guests comfortable would be a common Federation tactic/policy). Q interferes by showing Picard an alternate future where this happens, and he, Choulder, his wife, even the President, amongst many others, are all murdered by the Emperor and Vader's powerful psychic powers, and they opt for different option for "security reasons")

2) Gather a delegation aboard the Federation One (too bad Sarek is dead, and Spock just disappeared, eh?), escorted by the Enterprise and a few escorts into Imperial space, but they don't board the station for security reasons.
2A) The Imps try to trap them, but they manage to get back through, and find that talks are over when they get back though.
2B) They are trapped in a Galaxy Far Far Away, but escape at warp. One of the ships looses her commanding officer, and Boran replaces him or her, while Heinmann becomes emergency XO of the Enterprise as I've planned. Ambassador Picard, at the insistence of the trapped delegation and what remains of his original crew aboard the Enterprise, becomes temporary Admiral.
2C) The Federation considers allowing Palpatine and some of his guards aboard, thinking that security could take them if a fight broke out. Q interrupts the transmission, and shows Ambassador Picard a very near future where that happened, and the entire delegation, including him, are slaughtered, along with much of the crew of the Federation One. The story then goes the same way as option 2A.

3) Thing go sour over communications, and the battle abruptly starts in a fashion similar between the Narada and the Kelvin.

I won't be starting the next part until at least Monday, and even then, I'll want to finish the initial design concept for a shuttlecraft if I go with option 1, since a shuttlecraft could be used to help fight against Palpatine's and Vader's abilities (and potentially destroy their ride, while allowing security to escape being slaughtered). It might be a while.

 Speaking of original designs, here is my latest original designs, I designed a new Light Cruiser: http://jeszasz.deviantart.com/art/Glenn-class-Light-Cruiser-Preliminary-Sketches-651255045

To TNC: Please feel free to share any starship names (Starfleet and anything else) you can think of. In fact, I vigorously invite all readers to do the same. If they haven't been used by other fans or result in contradicting another fanon, I will likely integrate them at some point. And I will also use those links for researching name to good effect as well. Thank you.

I've also found a treasure trove of names for Imperial Star Destroyers.
ISD Names For Fanfics - StarDestroyer.Net BBS
I'm using these (and by using, that means likely destroying them)!


"As for the story itself, I think it might be better to describe Portsmouth before the officers talk about it. Also how would the Prime Timeline know about something that happened in the Kelvin Timeline (unless of course your suggesting that the same event happened, but differently, in both timelines). Sulu et. al. are still alive in the late 24th century... Damn. Also I'm not sure Starfleet would use terms like "heavy mobile battle station" or "super heavy dreadnought". Granted, I don't have any good replacement suggestions for you, though personally I find super heavy dreadnought a little silly sounding. Also needs moar edits. Near the start when the Emperor is touring the station, it would be nice to have some spaces between dialog and non-dialog (like you do later)."

I'll make those fixed before actually moving onto the next chapter (or I'll just never do it!). And you'd better bet that events similar to what happened in Beyond happened in the Prime Timeline. That ancient weapon is still likely to be offered by the Fobodan Republic to the Tanaxi Delegation through the Federation (which will be similarly rejected), and that ship carrying said artifact will be hacked, and probably make a stop at Yorktown Star Station. I'd hate to think Edison was actually successful in the Prime Timeline. It's only a matter of time. Don't be so surprised that Sulu is still alive. Chekov is still alive in Renegades. I imagine by then that the Federation has the technology to let you look young and live forever (though how many would want that is unknown, and an issue that has been avoided).

And unless someone gives me better ship terminologies, I'll just manage on my own.

"How long do you want this story to be? Is it supposed to be roughly equivalent to a two-to-three hour movie? Several movies? A full series?"
Probably a mini-series. This is several months before the Battle of Endor, and for each month, there will be at least one major battle. That is the only planning I have so far though.
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Re: A War Between Two Galaxies
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2016, 06:33:11 PM »
Ship names (by type) I've used/will use in my fan-fic.  Feel free to use the names as is or mix-and-match names and types as you wish.  Some of the names are geographical locations and such I pulled off Memory Alpha or Beta (obviously anything that isn't of Earth origin).  I've included links to some of the names so you know where they came from and can use similar mythology and such.

Akira-class: Iaido (Japanese for "harmony in motion"), Ryu ("dragon"), Griffin, Akatsuki ("dawn"), Bushido, Kusanagi, Amaterasu

Ambassador-class: Crazy Horse, Sarek, Khitomer

Cheyenne-class: Comanche, Diné (The Navajo peoples' name for themselves)

Columbia-class: One of my designs, All named after 20th century space exploration vehicles (Space shuttles, Apollo, Soyuz), I'd be more specific, but I seem to have misplaced my list of names for them, though I remember (aside from Enterprise-F) the first run was all named after ones lost with the dates of the associated tragedies placed in the registry numbers (Columbia, Challenger, Soyuz, Apollo).

Defiant-class: São Paulo

Galaxy-class: Kirk, Alexandria

Khopesh-class: Muramasa (One of my designs, a 25th century replacement for the Sabre, class name is a type of Egyptian sword so it works for Sabres too)

Nebula-class: Einstein

Niagara-class: Glasgow, Janaran Falls, Parakupá Vená

Nova-class: Spitzer, Hubble

Oberth-class: Newton (decommissioned, mentioned in backstory)

Olympic-class: McCoy

Prometheus-class: Iapetus, Atlas, Kreios, Helios (all named after Titans from Greek mythology)

Sabre-class: Sablia, Shashka, Kilij, Shotel, Lirpa, Tulwar (all but Lirpa are swords)

Sekhmet-class: Sekhmet, Athena, Minerva, Camulus (This is one of my designs, naming theme is God(esse)s of war, feel free to use the names if you wish, I suppose I could be talked into loaning the design, but that means I'd have to finish it...)

Sovereign-class: Pegasus

Springfield-class Kepler, Tar'Hana

Steamrunner-class: Voroth Sea, Utva, Lake Yuron, Sahving

Rheinfall-class: Rheinfall (another of my designs, similar situation as the Sekhmet)

U.S.S. Falcon (I mention it off-hand, never specified the class)

Horus-class (a fighter shuttle), Gyrfalcon-class (another fighter shuttle), Aurelia-class Extreme Environment Explorer (my 25th century shuttle design based off the Jellyfish from ST 2009)

Ka'vort'ha-class: Ka'vort'ha, Qapla' (Klingon ships, one of my designs, don't know if it really means anything in Klingon just threw something together that looked Klingon)

IKS M'Rel (Gorwon's father's name, and several of my Klingon Bridge Officers in STO wound up named that)

Damar-class: C.D.V. Damar, C.D.V. Ziyal (C.D.V. = Cardassian Defense Vessel, again one of my designs, though I haven't actually drawn it yet)

Aldaron-class: No specific names, another Cardassan ship name I came up with by taking a named Cardassian ship from the shows and changing it.

Gorn Ships: Togor, Sorgar, Korgar, Slakth, Gorzr, Skorrg

I.R.W. Tomalak

I named some Tholian ship classes after gemstones (like Klingon Academy) whereas STO uses spider species names.  I've got a new Bajoran design called the Shakkar-class, though I've never attempted to draw it.  I suppose if Bajor is part of the Federation in your fan-fic you could have a U.S.S. Shakkar.

Ship names I've used for my Stargate fan-fic, but since they come from Earth mythology or historical persons, they can work for Trek too.
Odysseus, Churchill, Achilles, Agamemnon (I also used it for my Trek fan-fic, along with Beowulf), Tupolev, Excalibur, Durendal, Masamune, Balmung, Gungnir, Mjöllnir.

For more suggestions, the following link is a list of famous scientists you could name ships after.  And as a said before, Memory Alpha and Beta could be used for names of things that could be used ship names.
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Re: A War Between Two Galaxies
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2016, 08:28:59 PM »
 I intend to use names and registries that I find online from fanon, such as the defunct Trekmania site. Indeed, I've already made a secret comprehensive (but vastly incomplete) list.

 Achilles: NCC-72376, same class as introduced in the Dominion Wars video game of course.

 Agamemnon: NCC-11638; Apollo class

 Akatsuki, Diné, Iaido, and Ryu have not ben used, but I'll look to see if another fan has come up with a class name and registries for those, before I make them up myself to avoid conflicts (why make something up when there is something already perfectly usable?). Same applies for any undecided below. I'd honestly like to make the Iaido a Legacy class, but I haven't gotten Malcolm Lu's permission to use him designs yet. One reason I'm taking things slow.

 Akatsuki: Currently unused; Possible Akira class.

 Alexandria: Intrepid class, NCC-81204

 Amaterasu some fan design called the Kami class. NCC-49437. I'll probably just pass on that one for now.

 Apollo: Lunar, NCC-80202

 Athena: Sun Tzu (need to think of a registry for this DJ Curtis classic's class ship), NCC-75639

 Atlas: NCC-75013; Sovereign class

 Balmung: Assuming I can get Madkoifish's permission: NCC-28964

 Bushido: Currently unused; possible Akira class.

 Camulus: Currently Unused

 Challenger: Lost in the same place as the Hera. They're slowly working on a replacement, and hoping that she shows up again with Montgomery Scott. I'd want her to be a Century, Perception, or Odyssey class.

 Churchill: NCC-75214; Intrepid class

 Columbia: *Sigh* My plan was to make this the name of the Atlantia class's replacement, which would be based on the design of
the rebooted Galactica. Right now, the idea is that the Columbia is a Galaxy class (NCC-71803), and she is destroyed, replaced by an Explorer class with a registry number of NX/NCC-97502, she is destroyed by the Ionians or Undine, or Klingons, and replaced by a new and improved Battlecarrier/Battlestar. Of course, everyone and their mother seems to like using the name, so I've jokingly referred to the name as an unlucky one, since so many ships get lost to make way for a new ship.

 Commanche: Under construction, NCC-88890, designed by the same person who designed the Diligent class (and still hasn't answered my request to use her). I might have to just not use this if he doesn't reply by a certain amount of time.

 Crazy Horse: Defiant class, NCC-76891 (not making her an Ambassador class, when the last one was an Excelsior class anyways! I'd probably make her a Heavy Cruiser such as a Sovvie or Vesta, maybe an Argus)

 Diné: Currently unused; Possible Cheyenne class.

 Durendal: Currently Unused

 Einstein: Need to research that. Wasn't there a Nebula class of that name that was destroyed/assimiltated by the Borg in 2380? Edit: the Einstein that was assimilated wasn't even Starfleet. I will likely just use one of the following: NCC-64920 or NCC-72897 (Nebula), NCC-57873 (Caesar), NCC-80815 (Prometheus), or NCC-80017 (Norway class). I'm most likely to go with a Nebula class, since it is kinda canon (Armada), even though I want to canonically add more to Bernd's Caesar class. I consider the Albert Einstein (NCC-85183) to be another ship altogether.

 Excalibur: a rather controversial decision. I want to redesign the old Excalibur class, and either make her an older design from the end of the Dominion war. That, or she retains her registry of NX-90000, and is currently in the planning stages, but that means destroying the book-canon Excalibur (NCC-26517-A). I'm probably going to do the latter, or not mention the Excalibur at all.

 Falcon: A name that I have honestly avoided, due to it's popularity in fanon. I wanted to name the Sparrow class's Heavy Frigate variant this, but didn't want to contradict any known fanon designations. At this point, I have her listed as a Danube class, NCC-74753, but she will end up destroyed, and replaced by a Galaxy class.

 Glasgow: Possibly an Akira class (NCC-64520), Nebula class (NCC-69351), Sovereign class (NCC-87425), or Intrepid (NCC-75291)

 Griffin is an Akira class, NCC-81106

 Gungnir: Currently Unused

 Helios: NCC-65460; Nebula class

 Hubble: Nova (NCC-73708 or NCC-79901), Archimedes (NCC-70023), Intrepid (NCC-74915)

 Iaido: Akira (NCC-76766). I'd love to make her a Legacy class though.

 Iapetus: NCC-80125; Luna class

 Janaran Falls: Currently unused registry. Either Niagara, Sequoia, or Glenn class.

 Kepler: NCC-81236; Nova

 Khitomer: Nebula class, NCC-66613

 Khopesh: Saber (NCC-61874 or NCC-69887)

 Kilij: Currently unused

 Kirk: Currently unused; Probably a Sovereign, Galaxy, Vesta, or Glenn class.

 Kreios: Currently unused

 Kusanagi is an Akira class, NCC-65029

 Lake Yuron: Currently Unused

 Lirpa: Possible Saber class

 McCoy: Olympic (NCC-53365, NCC-58906, or NCC-58934) or Ambassador (NCC-54556)

 Minerva: Possibly Nebula (NCC-72019) or Chimera (NCC-57402)

 Mjöllnir: Currently unused

 Murasama: Currently unused

 Masamune: Akira; NCC-88026 (currently under construction); Akira (NCC-63579)

 Newton: Nova (NCC-77840)

 Parakupá Vená: Currently Unused; Possibly a Cheyenne class

 Odysseus: NCC-80083; Odysseus class. Which reminds me, I should ask Greg to use his designs.

 Pegasus: NCC-78562-A: Entente class.

 Rye: Currently unused; Possible Akira class

 Sablia: Currently unused

 Sahving: Currently unused

 Sarek: Nottingham class (from one of those old ASDB webzines), NCC-78509. Design is probably so old, that it will be too hard to find the creator. I might just mention her my name and registry number anyways, like I did with the Interceptor class. If I'm contacted and told to remove her, I can just replace her with something else comparable to take her role.

 São Paulo: Isn't there a sub-class with that name in STO? If so, then that would meant there could be a ship of that name destroyed either by the Empire, or later by the Klingons.

 Sekhmet: Possibly NX-80506. I might give her a registry number higher than the Spirit (NX-79995), since she was the first ship to have slipstream successfully. It's either that, or the Sekhmet was modified.

 Shashka: Currently unused

 Shotel: Currently unused

 Spitzer: Currently unused; Possible Nova class
 
 Soyuz: Undecided, but a number of options to consider. From a member of a modern Soyuz class, to a Nebula (NCC-73142) or Defiant (NCC-76329) class. TBD.

 Ter'Hana: Possible Springfield class

 Tulwar: Saber (NCC-71462)

 Tupolev: Steamrunner (NCC-65528)

 Utva: Currently Unused

 Voroth Sea: Currently unused

 For any of your designs, if you complete their design to at least the same point as the Glenn class, and they fit into the time period (2387 to early 2388) then I'll shoehorn them in. Unless the story goes beyond the Battle of Endor. Otherwise, I might use their names, and just have them ending up unlucky.

 I'll have to determine everything else later. I need to go to bed, and should already be asleep, because I have to get up early tomorrow.
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Re: A War Between Two Galaxies
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2016, 09:22:51 PM »
There is a Sao Paulo class in Star Trek Online. It's upgraded Defiant class

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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2016, 08:32:08 AM »
For other STO ship classes, you can consult the STO Wiki.

(why make something up when there is something already perfectly usable?)

Because its more fun to make up your own stuff.  :P  And also that way you don't have to ask permission to use another person's work...

For any of your designs, if you complete their design to at least the same point as the Glenn class, and they fit into the time period (2387 to early 2388) then I'll shoehorn them in. Unless the story goes beyond the Battle of Endor. Otherwise, I might use their names, and just have them ending up unlucky.

Well the Sekhmet-class, Rheinfall-class, Ka'vort'ha-class, and Aldaron-class do fit into that time period.  The question is, will I let you use them?

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Sure, why not?  Keep in mind that I don't really follow the novels so their backstories and such may not jive with everything your including...

Sekhmet-class
The Sekhmet started out as a weapons development project just before the start of the Dominion War (project commissioned Stardate 48102.7).  By Stardate 50727.1 the project develops a phased plasma cannon with incredible destructive power.  However, the weapon is incompatible with existing Starfleet ships, thus the Sekhmet Development Project begins to build a ship capable of mounting it.  By Stardate 51475, the Prometheus-class has gained more favor with Starfleet Command, but development on the Sekhmet continues.  By Stardate 52957.3 the Sekhmet is still not finished and the Dominion War is over; however, Starfleet Command and the Federation Council continue to support the program.

After the return of Voyager from the Delta Quadrant, some technologies brought back by the ship are fitted into the prototype Sekhmet.  The ship is finally launched around Stardate 64539.0 during the Borg War of 2387 (My Frontlines fan-fic).  During the course of the Borg War (May 2387 to March 2388, though I may extend that) the Athena and Minerva are constructed.  With the Camulus arriving sometime after the war.  I also had plans for a more exploration focused variant called the Thoth-class (though that too is after the war, named after the Egyptian god of wisdom).

U.S.S. Sekhmet NX-75506
Crew: 450 Crew (512 max)
Length: 575 meters
Draft: 128 meters
Beam: 375 meters
Weight: 3,000,500 metric tons
Cargo Capacity: 31,300 metric tons
Hull: Duranium-Tritanium composite with advanced alloy enhancement and ablative armor outer shell
Number of Decks: 21, 19 habitable
Armament: 17x Type-XII phaser arrays, 25x Type-X-C point defense phaser clusters, 12 Type-XI-P pulse phaser cannons, 10x Mark XIII burst fire torpedo launchers (6x fore, 4x aft), 1x Mark I phased plasma cannon (fore only)
Auxiliary Craft: 20x Horus-class fighters (launched from 10 specialized catapult launchers (five on each side of the ship)), Recon probes (equipped with Future Janeway's anti-Borg stealth tech), Decoy probes, Armed attack probes
Speed: .735c (emergency full impulse), .25c (full impulse), Slipstream capable (though limited to short bursts)
Before I decided to incorporate the Vesta-class into my fan-fic, the Sekhmet would have been Starfleet's first Slipstream capable ship.
Type-X-C PDPC: A specialized adaptation of the Type-X phaser emitters, the Type-X-C point defense phaser cluster was designed to provide close-in fire support.  They system comprises of five Type-X phaser emitters linked to dedicated targeting sensors and computer control systems.  Each emitter fires in sequence at a single target or in a small area providing a rapid rate of fire.  The accuracy of the targeting system and the rapid response of the control systems allow this weapon to be effective at destroying incoming torpedoes and other projectiles.  The rapid rate of fire compensates for the relatively low power output of the individual emitters.  When not in use each cluster is protected by retractable blast doors and regenerative forcefields.  The biggest drawback to this weapon system is the limited firing arc of each emitter cluster.  In this case the issue has been somewhat overcome by the placement of 25 emitter clusters scattered across the hull.  As a result nearly every angle is covered although there are blind spots.
Basically its an effort to bridge the gap between pulse phasers and standard phasers, greater range & accuracy than pulse phasers but a faster firing rate than arrays.  Regenerative forcefields are also in place around key areas. The phased plasma cannon its powered by an independent M/AM reactor, basically a smaller version of what you would find on a Defiant-class.

Aldaron-class  There's also a couple of other Cardie vessels, but I don't have names for them.
During the Dominion War the Cardassian military’s primary combat vessels were the Galor, Keldon, and Hideki-class starships.  Late in the war the Cardassian military realized there was a size gap in their fleet.  The Hideki-class, while well suited to border patrol missions, was poorly suited for fleet engagements and regulated to support of the larger Galor and Keldon-classes.  Likewise the Galor and Keldon-class were well suited for fleet engagements, but were too much of an investment to send on dangerous hit and run attacks.  As such the Cardassian High Command issued orders for the development of a small vessel that could better support the heavier ships in fleet combat and would be capable of undertaking a variety of missions on its own or in small groups.  Several designs were considered; however, with the war turning against them the Cardassian High Command decided it would be best to focus on constructing as many Galors and Keldons as possible.  When the war ended the treaty put strict limitations on the number of large attack vessels the Cardassian military could produce.  As a result the Cardassian High Command was forced to consider smaller vessels once again.  One of the many design considerations was finally chosen and modified based on lessons learned during the war.  The new ship was named the Aldaron-class and given the designation of frigate.

The Aldaron-class frigate is 250 meters long with a width of nearly 169 meters and a height of just less than 34 meters.  Vessels of this class are armed with 8 disruptor cannons giving it full 360° coverage and two forward mounted torpedo launchers.  The Aldaron-class is one of the fastest ships in the Cardassian fleet and can hold at Warp 9 for six hours.  Additionally the Aldaron-class is capable of planetary landing allowing it to act in troop transport operations.  It can also operate sufficiently in atmosphere to provide ground troops with heavy, close-in fire support.

Design Statistics
-Length: 250 meters
-Beam: 168.99 meters
-Draft: 33.54 meters
Weapons
-4x Spiral-Wave Disruptor cannons (2x Fore, 2x Aft)
-4x Light spiral-wave disruptor cannons (2x Port, 2x Starboard)
-2x Forward torpedo launchers
  -100x Cardassian Plasma torpedoes [50 per launcher]
Other Data
-Maximum Warp Speed: Warp 9 for 6 hours
-Maximum Cruise Speed: Warp 8.03

Rheinfall-class
The Rheinfall-class originated as a theoretical design for a through-deck carrier (a project that eventually lead to the construction of the Mississippi-class).  The original design would have used the unique secondary hull as a large hangar deck to house and launch fighters and conventional shuttles.  The fighters would launch from the forward section of the bay and be recovered in the aft section.  However the design was abandoned in the computer simulation phase because of several issues.  Eventually the design was picked up as part of a project to replace several aging vessels including the Excelsior, Niagara, and Cheyenne-classes.  The issues with the simulation design were resolved and the project was officially designated as the Rheinfall Development Project (The German name for the largest plain waterfalls in Europe).  The prototype hull was designated U.S.S. Rheinfall NX-80090 and after passing the tests the class was approved for production.

The Rheinfall-class is 468m long, 175.5m wide, and 140.5m tall.  The primary reason for the large draft is the pylon for the third nacelle.  Ships of this class are armed with 18 Type-XII phaser arrays, 3 forward torpedo launchers, 2 aft torpedo launchers, and 12 forward pulse phaser cannons.  The forward torpedo launchers are mounted as follows: one on the ventral hull similar to the Sovereign-class and one on both sides of the deflector dish.  The two aft torpedoes are located in the cutaway section of the secondary hull.  The pulse phaser cannons are mounted in the impulse drive pods on the nacelle pylons and their power is tripled by the tie-in with the impulse drive.  For defense, the Rheinfall-class is equipped with regenerative shield technology and ablative hull armor.  The Rheinfall-class also features two forward facing shuttlebays on the secondary hull as a leftover of it’s origins as an abandoned through-deck carrier prototype.  The Rheinfall-class proved its worth in the Borg War of 2387.
Pulse phaser cannons mounted in the cowling forward of the impulse engines.  I've recently thought about removing them as the vessel is likely too large to effectively use them.  Project started: Stardate 49594.1, prototype completed Stardate 57200.2.

Just for kicks: Spock-class patrol cruiser & unnamed Vulcan shuttle, Unnamed Gorn Heavy Battle Cruser & an unnamed Suliban ship, and some Tholian ships (bottom of the page, dA is being a little bitch again and won't let me click on all three).

Ka'vort'ha-class
Ka'vort'ha Variant
Q'apla Variant
Weapon closeups
2D Version (so you can get an idea of the detailing)

Stardate 57517.2: (July 8, 1305 hrs) Taking lessons learned during the Dominion War the Klingon Empire begins the development of a new line of battlecruiser.  Captain Klarg is assigned to the development team due to his first hand experience during the Dominion War.  The project is named the Ka’vort’ha development project.

Stardate 61101.6: (February 7, 2384 | 1027 hours) The Ka’vort’ha development project comes up with two variants for a new battlecruiser.  After much debate the Empire decides to build both variants for the practical testing phase.

Stardate 62192.8: (March 12, 2385 | 1455 hours) Construction begins on the two Ka’vort’ha-class variant prototypes, the I.K.S. Ka’vort’ha and I.K.S. Q’apla.

Roughly Stardate 64340.46: (May 5, 2387 | 1225 hours) {Events of “The Threat Revealed”} Tests on the Q'apla are interrupted by a Borg attack, later the Q’apla and Ka’vort’ha are pressed into service and the class is put into production…


The Ka’vort’ha-class heavy cruiser was designed with heavy firepower in mind.  It is equipped with multiple disruptors and torpedo launchers including a newly developed disruptor cannon that has immense firepower.  In appearance it is similar to the Neg’var-class but is smaller than a Neg’var.  However it is larger than the Vor’cha-class attack cruiser.

Design Statistics
-Length: 500.554 m
-Beam: 282 m
-Draft: 54.5 m
-Crew Capacity: (2,000-1,500)
Weapons
-17x Quad-barrel disruptor turrets (spread out over all arcs)
-4x Heavy disruptor cannon (fore)
-12x Torpedo launchers (8 forward, 4 aft)
  -425x Photon torpedoes
  -275x Enhanced photon torpedoes
  -36x Decoy probes
Other Data
-Standard Cloaking Device
-Maximum Warp Speed: Warp 9.9978 for ten hours.
-Maximum Cruise Speed: Warp 8.7
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2016, 06:15:47 PM »
 
(why make something up when there is something already perfectly usable?)

Because its more fun to make up your own stuff.  :P  And also that way you don't have to ask permission to use another person's work...

 What's wrong with asking for permission? I see it as a sign of respect to make such requests. By using well done designs from fanon, it creates for a more cohesive universe. And the Glenn is only the first of like over a dozen designs I want to use. That's more than what is usually done for canon shows! It saves me time, and Star Trek fans might see (or read about) their favorite fan-designs in action! It makes things exciting! Hope someone uses one of my designs for a fan fiction. Next best thing to it being used in canon!

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For any of your designs, if you complete their design to at least the same point as the Glenn class, and they fit into the time period (2387 to early 2388) then I'll shoehorn them in. Unless the story goes beyond the Battle of Endor. Otherwise, I might use their names, and just have them ending up unlucky.

Well the Sekhmet-class, Rheinfall-class, Ka'vort'ha-class, and Aldaron-class do fit into that time period.  The question is, will I let you use them?

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Sure, why not?  Keep in mind that I don't really follow the novels so their backstories and such may not jive with everything your including...

Sekhmet-class
The Sekhmet started out as a weapons development project just before the start of the Dominion War (project commissioned Stardate 48102.7).  By Stardate 50727.1 the project develops a phased plasma cannon with incredible destructive power.  However, the weapon is incompatible with existing Starfleet ships, thus the Sekhmet Development Project begins to build a ship capable of mounting it.  By Stardate 51475, the Prometheus-class has gained more favor with Starfleet Command, but development on the Sekhmet continues.  By Stardate 52957.3 the Sekhmet is still not finished and the Dominion War is over; however, Starfleet Command and the Federation Council continue to support the program.

After the return of Voyager from the Delta Quadrant, some technologies brought back by the ship are fitted into the prototype Sekhmet.  The ship is finally launched around Stardate 64539.0 during the Borg War of 2387 (My Frontlines fan-fic).  During the course of the Borg War (May 2387 to March 2388, though I may extend that) the Athena and Minerva are constructed.  With the Camulus arriving sometime after the war.  I also had plans for a more exploration focused variant called the Thoth-class (though that too is after the war, named after the Egyptian god of wisdom).

U.S.S. Sekhmet NX-75506
Crew: 450 Crew (512 max)
Length: 575 meters
Draft: 128 meters
Beam: 375 meters
Weight: 3,000,500 metric tons
Cargo Capacity: 31,300 metric tons
Hull: Duranium-Tritanium composite with advanced alloy enhancement and ablative armor outer shell
Number of Decks: 21, 19 habitable
Armament: 17x Type-XII phaser arrays, 25x Type-X-C point defense phaser clusters, 12 Type-XI-P pulse phaser cannons, 10x Mark XIII burst fire torpedo launchers (6x fore, 4x aft), 1x Mark I phased plasma cannon (fore only)
Auxiliary Craft: 20x Horus-class fighters (launched from 10 specialized catapult launchers (five on each side of the ship)), Recon probes (equipped with Future Janeway's anti-Borg stealth tech), Decoy probes, Armed attack probes
Speed: .735c (emergency full impulse), .25c (full impulse), Slipstream capable (though limited to short bursts)
Before I decided to incorporate the Vesta-class into my fan-fic, the Sekhmet would have been Starfleet's first Slipstream capable ship.
Type-X-C PDPC: A specialized adaptation of the Type-X phaser emitters, the Type-X-C point defense phaser cluster was designed to provide close-in fire support.  They system comprises of five Type-X phaser emitters linked to dedicated targeting sensors and computer control systems.  Each emitter fires in sequence at a single target or in a small area providing a rapid rate of fire.  The accuracy of the targeting system and the rapid response of the control systems allow this weapon to be effective at destroying incoming torpedoes and other projectiles.  The rapid rate of fire compensates for the relatively low power output of the individual emitters.  When not in use each cluster is protected by retractable blast doors and regenerative forcefields.  The biggest drawback to this weapon system is the limited firing arc of each emitter cluster.  In this case the issue has been somewhat overcome by the placement of 25 emitter clusters scattered across the hull.  As a result nearly every angle is covered although there are blind spots.
Basically its an effort to bridge the gap between pulse phasers and standard phasers, greater range & accuracy than pulse phasers but a faster firing rate than arrays.  Regenerative forcefields are also in place around key areas. The phased plasma cannon its powered by an independent M/AM reactor, basically a smaller version of what you would find on a Defiant-class.

Aldaron-class  There's also a couple of other Cardie vessels, but I don't have names for them.
During the Dominion War the Cardassian military’s primary combat vessels were the Galor, Keldon, and Hideki-class starships.  Late in the war the Cardassian military realized there was a size gap in their fleet.  The Hideki-class, while well suited to border patrol missions, was poorly suited for fleet engagements and regulated to support of the larger Galor and Keldon-classes.  Likewise the Galor and Keldon-class were well suited for fleet engagements, but were too much of an investment to send on dangerous hit and run attacks.  As such the Cardassian High Command issued orders for the development of a small vessel that could better support the heavier ships in fleet combat and would be capable of undertaking a variety of missions on its own or in small groups.  Several designs were considered; however, with the war turning against them the Cardassian High Command decided it would be best to focus on constructing as many Galors and Keldons as possible.  When the war ended the treaty put strict limitations on the number of large attack vessels the Cardassian military could produce.  As a result the Cardassian High Command was forced to consider smaller vessels once again.  One of the many design considerations was finally chosen and modified based on lessons learned during the war.  The new ship was named the Aldaron-class and given the designation of frigate.

The Aldaron-class frigate is 250 meters long with a width of nearly 169 meters and a height of just less than 34 meters.  Vessels of this class are armed with 8 disruptor cannons giving it full 360° coverage and two forward mounted torpedo launchers.  The Aldaron-class is one of the fastest ships in the Cardassian fleet and can hold at Warp 9 for six hours.  Additionally the Aldaron-class is capable of planetary landing allowing it to act in troop transport operations.  It can also operate sufficiently in atmosphere to provide ground troops with heavy, close-in fire support.

Design Statistics
-Length: 250 meters
-Beam: 168.99 meters
-Draft: 33.54 meters
Weapons
-4x Spiral-Wave Disruptor cannons (2x Fore, 2x Aft)
-4x Light spiral-wave disruptor cannons (2x Port, 2x Starboard)
-2x Forward torpedo launchers
  -100x Cardassian Plasma torpedoes [50 per launcher]
Other Data
-Maximum Warp Speed: Warp 9 for 6 hours
-Maximum Cruise Speed: Warp 8.03

Rheinfall-class
The Rheinfall-class originated as a theoretical design for a through-deck carrier (a project that eventually lead to the construction of the Mississippi-class).  The original design would have used the unique secondary hull as a large hangar deck to house and launch fighters and conventional shuttles.  The fighters would launch from the forward section of the bay and be recovered in the aft section.  However the design was abandoned in the computer simulation phase because of several issues.  Eventually the design was picked up as part of a project to replace several aging vessels including the Excelsior, Niagara, and Cheyenne-classes.  The issues with the simulation design were resolved and the project was officially designated as the Rheinfall Development Project (The German name for the largest plain waterfalls in Europe).  The prototype hull was designated U.S.S. Rheinfall NX-80090 and after passing the tests the class was approved for production.

The Rheinfall-class is 468m long, 175.5m wide, and 140.5m tall.  The primary reason for the large draft is the pylon for the third nacelle.  Ships of this class are armed with 18 Type-XII phaser arrays, 3 forward torpedo launchers, 2 aft torpedo launchers, and 12 forward pulse phaser cannons.  The forward torpedo launchers are mounted as follows: one on the ventral hull similar to the Sovereign-class and one on both sides of the deflector dish.  The two aft torpedoes are located in the cutaway section of the secondary hull.  The pulse phaser cannons are mounted in the impulse drive pods on the nacelle pylons and their power is tripled by the tie-in with the impulse drive.  For defense, the Rheinfall-class is equipped with regenerative shield technology and ablative hull armor.  The Rheinfall-class also features two forward facing shuttlebays on the secondary hull as a leftover of it’s origins as an abandoned through-deck carrier prototype.  The Rheinfall-class proved its worth in the Borg War of 2387.
Pulse phaser cannons mounted in the cowling forward of the impulse engines.  I've recently thought about removing them as the vessel is likely too large to effectively use them.  Project started: Stardate 49594.1, prototype completed Stardate 57200.2.

Just for kicks: Spock-class patrol cruiser & unnamed Vulcan shuttle, Unnamed Gorn Heavy Battle Cruser & an unnamed Suliban ship, and some Tholian ships (bottom of the page, dA is being a little bitch again and won't let me click on all three).

Ka'vort'ha-class
Ka'vort'ha Variant
Q'apla Variant
Weapon closeups
2D Version (so you can get an idea of the detailing)

Stardate 57517.2: (July 8, 1305 hrs) Taking lessons learned during the Dominion War the Klingon Empire begins the development of a new line of battlecruiser.  Captain Klarg is assigned to the development team due to his first hand experience during the Dominion War.  The project is named the Ka’vort’ha development project.

Stardate 61101.6: (February 7, 2384 | 1027 hours) The Ka’vort’ha development project comes up with two variants for a new battlecruiser.  After much debate the Empire decides to build both variants for the practical testing phase.

Stardate 62192.8: (March 12, 2385 | 1455 hours) Construction begins on the two Ka’vort’ha-class variant prototypes, the I.K.S. Ka’vort’ha and I.K.S. Q’apla.

Roughly Stardate 64340.46: (May 5, 2387 | 1225 hours) {Events of “The Threat Revealed”} Tests on the Q'apla are interrupted by a Borg attack, later the Q’apla and Ka’vort’ha are pressed into service and the class is put into production…


The Ka’vort’ha-class heavy cruiser was designed with heavy firepower in mind.  It is equipped with multiple disruptors and torpedo launchers including a newly developed disruptor cannon that has immense firepower.  In appearance it is similar to the Neg’var-class but is smaller than a Neg’var.  However it is larger than the Vor’cha-class attack cruiser.

Design Statistics
-Length: 500.554 m
-Beam: 282 m
-Draft: 54.5 m
-Crew Capacity: (2,000-1,500)
Weapons
-17x Quad-barrel disruptor turrets (spread out over all arcs)
-4x Heavy disruptor cannon (fore)
-12x Torpedo launchers (8 forward, 4 aft)
  -425x Photon torpedoes
  -275x Enhanced photon torpedoes
  -36x Decoy probes
Other Data
-Standard Cloaking Device
-Maximum Warp Speed: Warp 9.9978 for ten hours.
-Maximum Cruise Speed: Warp 8.7

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 Great, now you're going to make me feel bad, and you're going to probably hate me, because...

 The point development for your designs are insufficient for my standards. When I use a non-canon design, I want the reader to be impressed by them, both from the work done on them and aesthetically. That goes especially for my designs, and I'm pretty hard on myself, so I'll likely try to improve on quality for every design I turn out.

 You have their story worked out, and their stats, but design wise, they are underdeveloped. Their shapes are too basic, and some of them are blocky for what I'd expect for a Trek design. Now if you were to work on their proportions and aesthetics, even if it just means concept sketches similar to the Glenn class, or even of something of the quality from the early First Contact sketches (and no, you don't have to color them). That, or let me refine them (in a way similar to what was done with Bernd Schneider's designs). I'm already thinking of potential improvements (I personally think you should play with giving the Sehkmet a weapons pod of some sort for example. It'd be a distinguishing feature, and provide an interesting design challenge. It doesn't have to be on the primary hull, or on top unless you want her to land. I'm guessing she's a Battlecruiser?). Then I'll not only try to at least mention them, but give 'em pivotal roles if I can avoid forcing it (Battle at Vulcan, and Imperial incursions into Suliban, Klingon, and Tholian space anyone?).

 Oh, and I forgot: yes Bajor is part of the Federation. They joined in 2376.

 Sorry if I came off as too...stern. Hope you don't hate me, since I really do like you and the advice you give me.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2016, 08:01:41 PM »
Great, now you're going to make me feel bad, and you're going to probably hate me, because...

 The point development for your designs are insufficient for my standards. When I use a non-canon design, I want the reader to be impressed by them, both from the work done on them and aesthetically. That goes especially for my designs, and I'm pretty hard on myself, so I'll likely try to improve on quality for every design I turn out.

 Sorry if I came off as too...stern. Hope you don't hate me, since I really do like you and the advice you give me.

No worries.  Criticism can be useful in drawing and writing.

As for the Sekhmet, she can't land (namely do to the down sloping primary hull).  I classify her as a "Tactical Cruiser" as I've seen that used for the Prometheus on some websites.  My original intent for the Sekhmet was something like a cross between the Norway-class (or at least what I thought the Norway looked liked based on just the side view) and the Achilles-class from Dominion Wars.  The whole catapult thing is pretty much a nuBSG reference.  The very earliest version of the Sekhmet had a weapon pod on a rollbar, but with the slopped hull, it just didn't work, so I ditched it.  I suppose a non-rollbar connected one could work.  Recently I've thought about redesigning the Sekhmet if I ever get back to working on Frontlines

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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2016, 12:48:56 PM »
 Glad you agree. Okay then, I'll be sure try to include them. Right now, my concern is deciding whether to wait until I make improvements to the current chapter and work on the next, or do it now.

 Since she is capable of short bursts of Quantum Slipstream, I'll probably changer the registry to the 78xxx range, indicating she is from after the Voyager returned, and add aspects from the Spirit class, then maybe make a second run version, with aspects from the Vesta class, since she is supposed to be Slipstream capable. Don't know if I'm going to design the Horus class, since the Valkyrie is perfectly usable for the same purpose, but then again, I intend to design the fightercraft for Tourangeau's Olympus class, since he never got around to doing so himself.

 We'll need to discuss this in more details once the actual design process begins.

 In the meantime, it seems likely that Starfleet will send a delegation into Imperial space, but won't board Imperial property, out of fear that the delegation might be taken hostage, even though Palpatine will attempt to convince them it is safe. Maybe have Picard or someone else experience something similar to a Final Destination-style precognitive experience.

 If you or no-one else has any other objections or ideas, that is how I plan to move forward this week or next week.

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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2016, 02:25:46 PM »
Well the Sekhmet was mostly complete by the time Voyager returned, with Slipstream improvements being retrofitted into the ship, so the registry was already fixed.  Kinda like how the Prometheus has a low registry number on the hull.  But I'm open to changes in registry numbers.  (Though now that I think about it, it might be better to make it like the Defiant, prototype completed and tested, but mothballed and the project restarted later?)

Story wise, I think having a chat over subspace would be the most logical/prudent from the Federation's point of view.  However, a face-to-face meeting might be more interesting story-wise.  As for precognitive experiences or Q interference (Q-ference?), eh... It might be better just to have a Betazoid sense betrayal or some such.  I suppose if you do the "trapped in Imperial space" scenario that gives you the chance for a Fed-Rebel Alliance team-up.
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2016, 05:44:58 PM »
Well the Sekhmet was mostly complete by the time Voyager returned, with Slipstream improvements being retrofitted into the ship, so the registry was already fixed.  Kinda like how the Prometheus has a low registry number on the hull.  But I'm open to changes in registry numbers.  (Though now that I think about it, it might be better to make it like the Defiant, prototype completed and tested, but mothballed and the project restarted later?)

Story wise, I think having a chat over subspace would be the most logical/prudent from the Federation's point of view.  However, a face-to-face meeting might be more interesting story-wise.  As for precognitive experiences or Q interference (Q-ference?), eh... It might be better just to have a Betazoid sense betrayal or some such.  I suppose if you do the "trapped in Imperial space" scenario that gives you the chance for a Fed-Rebel Alliance team-up.

 Yeah, I could keep the registry number, and have her designed as a mashup between the Odyssey, contemporary designs (Nova, Sovereign, Prometheus, at least a smidge of Achilles), and modified with the necessary components, but not optimized for long Slipstream travel, just short jumps (as your description states).

 The production run would be postponed, and optimized for Slipstream.

 I agree that Starfleet would likely refuse to allow the delegation to meet onboard the Gateway station, due to the risks of being taken hostage. Even well-placed transphasic torpedoes and an emergency beam-out might not happen quickly enough, and they know it. I agree that a face-to-face meeting would be interesting, but the Federation won't give into the Emperor's "requests" to search the Milky Way for resources to use in their war against the Rebellion. At best, the Empire would get humanitarian aid for those affected by the war, and Starfleet would attempt to act as arbitrators between the Empire and Rebellion. And when they make up their minds, I can't see any reality where Palpatine doesn't kill everyone in the room, because he is more than capable.

 It's already been decided by my committee that the Lost in Space story line isn't happening. Nobody seems to like it. Don't worry about Starfleet and Rebellion joining forces though. It will happen eventually, because Starfleet will attempt a counterattack by launching an occupation force along the lines of a D-Day Invasion into Imperial Space in retaliation for what the Empire is going to try to do. It's logical that they would try to seek information on the enemy of the Empire, since they will question if they are indeed terrorists, or lied to, and their Slipstream capable forces are limited.

 

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2016, 04:27:32 PM »
 Edit: I just realized that the first chapter was so long, that it failed to let me post the whole thing. Here are the paragraphs that were cut off. Sorry I only realized it now!

"I'm sorry, but it is not Imperial policy to divulge regulatory information to a foreign power! I did not come here to be interrogated by anyone, not you Admiral, not anyone!" Bingo. The only reason for Nyrok to have gotten his feathers so ruffled was because he was hiding something. It's not that he couldn't answer the question, so much as he didn't want to. zh'Tarash's Betazoid aide could feel the same thing, and she agreed with his unvoiced assessment. These Imperials were trouble, she was sure of it.

"Then I'm sorry, but I have to reiterate Starfleet regulations: we do not allow the docking of warships from a power we do not trust. And we've scanned your ships well enough that if you were to leave Federation space and use them for...dishonest purposes, that you could cause who knows how much damage. Damage that we would be responsible for if we allowed you go on your way, instead of going back through that hole in space..."

"Thank you Admiral, but I think I'll take things from here again", zh'Tarash interjected. "Look, it seems we're getting nowhere here, and I get the sense that if this sort of rhetoric keeps up, we're going to see a firefight, something I'm sure neither side wants. Is there any chance that as President of the United Federation of Planets, that I may speak to one of your representatives? Perhaps even reach this Emperor of yours?"

Nyrok had to give the female blue skinned antennaeed humanoid some credit. Most beings in The Galaxy wanted nothing to do with the Emperor if they could help it. Of course, she probably didn't even know any better. So be it. This was getting to far over his head, and he really wanted to avoid shooting up these people if he could help it. They were a bit obnoxious like the Rebels, but unlike them, at least they were peaceful and cultured, if not a very stubborn! Rumor had it that The Emperor had a tendency to be... very...persuasive. Well, they asked for it!

"In fact, the Emperor was visiting the space tunnel station we used to get here. He is probably leaving by now, but there is still a good chance we can contact him. Please hold while I attempt to reach him."

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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2016, 06:19:46 PM »
Odyssey class? As in the one from Star Trek Online?
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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2016, 06:53:22 PM »
Yeah, I could keep the registry number, and have her designed as a mashup between the Odyssey, contemporary designs (Nova, Sovereign, Prometheus, at least a smidge of Achilles), and modified with the necessary components, but not optimized for long Slipstream travel, just short jumps (as your description states).

 The production run would be postponed, and optimized for Slipstream.

Interesting, I look forward to seeing what you come up with. 

Although, I will let it slip that the Sekhmet is basically an expy for the Achilles and the AGT Galaxy (or a Galaxy-X as STO calls it).  When I first started Frontlines I was going to have a supped up Galaxy-X test-bed for new weapons codenamed U.S.S. Resistance (due to the Borg invasion), then I went overboard with the idea, scrapped it, came up with the Sekhmet, and saved some of the related ideas for a different ship idea.
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2016, 09:25:15 PM »
Yeah, I could keep the registry number, and have her designed as a mashup between the Odyssey, contemporary designs (Nova, Sovereign, Prometheus, at least a smidge of Achilles), and modified with the necessary components, but not optimized for long Slipstream travel, just short jumps (as your description states).

 The production run would be postponed, and optimized for Slipstream.

Interesting, I look forward to seeing what you come up with. 

Although, I will let it slip that the Sekhmet is basically an expy for the Achilles and the AGT Galaxy (or a Galaxy-X as STO calls it).  When I first started Frontlines I was going to have a supped up Galaxy-X test-bed for new weapons codenamed U.S.S. Resistance (due to the Borg invasion), then I went overboard with the idea, scrapped it, came up with the Sekhmet, and saved some of the related ideas for a different ship idea.

 Well, it makes sense, since the Achilles is a nice design, while the Entente, Sovereign, and Prometheus, and of course the Nova were all the most advanced designs at the time the design phase would have begun.

 Speaking of the U.S.S. Resistance, I've been playing around with the idea of reviving one of the Red Admiral's own designs, and making a pocket battleship. Of course, she wouldn't be slipstream capable. There is also the possibility of the Resistance being one of the first slipstream optimized run for the Sekhmet, launched around the time of the Borg Invasion of '81.

 Rather than having forward firing Pulse Phasers, they would be mounted in turrets for the production run, and maybe even the phaser lance would be turreted, like I'm going to do for the Atlantia class.

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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2016, 01:40:20 PM »
Are you talking about turreting (its a word now) the pulse phaser cannons on the Sekhmet?  I guess I don't have a problem with that.  I would however be against turreting the plasma cannon.  Maybe in the mid-25th/early 26th century when they can miniaturize it some, but not during the Sekhmet's production run.  I'd like the first run of Sekhmets to keep with the God(esse)s of War naming theme.

And you forgot to answer Xero's question.
Odyssey class? As in the one from Star Trek Online?
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« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2016, 12:21:33 PM »
Are you talking about turreting (its a word now) the pulse phaser cannons on the Sekhmet?  I guess I don't have a problem with that.  I would however be against turreting the plasma cannon.  Maybe in the mid-25th/early 26th century when they can miniaturize it some, but not during the Sekhmet's production run.  I'd like the first run of Sekhmets to keep with the God(esse)s of War naming theme.

And you forgot to answer Xero's question.
Odyssey class? As in the one from Star Trek Online?

 Sorry Xero! Could have sworn I answered this! Maybe I answered another similar question on Spacebattles, and thought I also did so here!

 The Odyssey class at this point is only at best in the earlier stages of development. Right now, the Odyssey is an Allegiance class like in the Hidden Frontiers-based series that I haven't gotten around to watching. She will be presumably destroyed at some point (though not during the Imperial-Federation War, but probably by the Klingons), and replaced with the Odyssey class.
 Not to be confused with the Odysseus, which is a different ship completely.

 Fine, as unwieldy as it will be, the phaser lance will not be turreted, at least for the Sekhmet. It will be on the Atlantia class, but then, she is my design, and I assume by then, it will be possible to make it work. They are still rather huge, just with shorter barrels and highly compacted focusing coils.

 And when I plan the registries and names, I'll make sure that I accede to your naming scheme requests, at least for the first production run, assuming there is more than one, since she is a pretty large warship (albeit not the largest I suppose). I understand, since I like to organize in a similar fashion.

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Re: A War Between Two Galaxies
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2016, 06:47:08 PM »
I was just a little concerned, because the Odyssey Class isn't supposed to be launched until 2409. 
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Re: A War Between Two Galaxies
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2016, 10:54:43 AM »
If you think the Sekhmet is unwieldy with its plasma cannon then you won't like the U.S.S. Royal or the Beowulf-class...  The Royal is 735.12 m long, 453.73 m wide, and 205.33 m tall and equipped with a plasma cannon.  While the Beowulf class is 1,557 m long and 638 m wide.  Though to be fair the Royal has saucer sep capabilites so that probably cuts the plasma cannon using part down to around 370 m long.

Also plasma cannon not phaser lance.  The Sekhmet's big gun is not a phaser based weapon.  I'm thinking about changing the plasma based nature of the cannon with a variable particle based nature, the idea being that firing different particles might have some advantage (though this may cross into video game-y territory).  Then there's the idea that the Sekhmet's plasma cannon is powered by its own M/AM reactor may be a bit much, maybe a series of dedicated fusion reactors.  Then again, the plasma cannon is supposed to take out a Borg Sphere in three shots so...  (Though some of that may be attributable to a lack of adaptation to the plasma cannon, after all, look how much damage the E-D's phasers did to that Cube in "Q Who?"...)  I'm also open to making the Sekhmet a little smaller, though not too much smaller than a Prometheus-class.

Oh, and if you don't want to bog this thread down too much with technobabble and such, we can move this to PM's.
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